yeah, I think its a leoxbd too..but still, they are all within the leopoldi species. Back here, getting info about rays origin/parents is hard. All we could do here is selecting which is good a ray, with the right price. I would also say that most black rays we got here in my area are all hybrids, and their numbers are not much at all. There are some local people who managed to breed them, but they are more interested in exporting the pups instead of selling them within the country.