I finally decided what to get for my grow out tank when i went to the lfs to look at umbees but the owner of the store said he hasn't had any luck trying to grow some out to get males but he had a dovi he said he was about 90% sure was a male its stll kind of small about 4 inch but about 2 inches bigger than the rest of the ones in the tank and it already has some big teeth so i had to get it! ill try to post some picks once it gets settled in.

