Since my gars have both been lost over the last 2 months one bailed and i didnt find him soon enough.(the story is on here somewhere)And the other lost for some reasons unknown.Im going to do the 415 with my tsn,about 3-4 pbass, get 2 new gars. Maybe my jag, or some wild caught bluegills. And id really like to try a texas map turtle since they only get about 6 inches. Has any one had any luck with larger fish with turtles in there tanks. And yes i know turtles eat fish but i have seen it done. And yes i kno you need to over filter cause of the waste. But has anyone had any succes. I know for sure ill have the tsn and 2 gars. And some pbass when i can find some in my area.