New North American Ebo Jager Heaters

[12 Volt Man]

as a follow up to the discussion of submersible Ebo (Eheim) Jager heaters sold in north america, my new 150w has no more maximum water line (it now has a minimum water line) and a new cord (that is very thick). it now says 'fully submersible' directly on the unit itself.

this has allowed them to get CSA and UL approval for sale in the USA and Canada without having to put a minimum water line on the heater.

prior to this, they were required by law to put a minium water line on the units if they wanted to obtain the electricalapproval stamp in north america.

for the past few years, this has created mass confusion among aquarists because the literature (box/manual) alway stated they were fully submersible yet there was a maximum water level printed on the heater itself.

which was a contradiction.

they always were the exact same fully submersibles as sold in europe (most people had them submersed anyway) but if they wanted the CSA/UL approval they legally could not claim this.

until now

just thought I would pass this along.

Also, I was talking to my LFS about the problems with the Marineland Stealth heaters lately. they confirmed that in the last 1.5 years or so they have had all kinds of customers with issues with them ('exploding', 'melting' etc)

they used to push them big time, but they don't anymore. they too believe that something happened with the quality control of the heaters, or they changed some material or something.

prior to this, they had no issues with customer complaints with them. very weird.

anyways, just passing the info along.

 

[Toby_H]

Thanks for this thread 12V. I've seen confusion on this topic a number of times and I've seen your response to it frequently.

I'm glad to see that Ebo has done what it takes to have their heaters labeled fully submersible. I do have to wonder if the added cost of the thicker cord is going to reflect on the retail price of the heater.

Even if it does, they are likely still worth the price tag, especially seeing that Stealths are no longer a competitor for top end quality heaters.

They too believe that something happened with the quality control of the heaters, or they changed some material or something.

For many years, Stealth heaters were made in Italy and proved to be one of the best heaters on the market. Now they are made in China and have a reputation of failing...


I really want to go off on an anti Chinesse made rant, but a fish forum isn't the place for that...

 

[12 Volt Man]

hmm.. they made the switch to manufacturing in China? interesting..

as far as the thicker cord adding cost, so far no.

my 150w ebo was $31.99 Canadian, which is the same price they have always been as far as I know. a bargin for an excellent quality heater IMO.

 

[12 Volt Man]

the new cord (top) looks to be at least 50% thicker than the old cord (bottom):

this is one beefy cord.

 

[Red_Belly_Pacu]

Does anyone know when the green top ebo jager heaters were made? I have two that are all green and they are still working.

 

[12 Volt Man]

germany I believe.

 

[knifegill]

I don't think Germany was the era he was asking about. I also have two or three of the all-green ebo-jager heaters which still work perfectly. 80's? 90's?

 

[12 Volt Man]

the green ebos were replaced with the yellow and blue ones in I believe the late 90's. I have been using ebos for about 10 years now but I never had any of the all green ones. I got the first models after that which were yellow and blue. still called Ebo Jagers too. not sure when Eheim began calling them Eheim Jagers. I believe they had owned them for a few years before they made the name change.