New Saltwater Tank

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xjmike91

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Im starting my first saltwater setup soon and would like to tell you what im buying and any usefull tips you guys can throw my way. Im buying a 29 gal tank "30Lx12Wx18T" and matching solid wood stand, coralife super skimmer rated for 65 gallons, fluval 406, koralina evelution 750, deep blue t5 lighting and a good jager heater. These are the basic hardwear and i still and getting the live rock and live sand aswell. Is the koralina 750 to much for the tank becouse i am running a 406aswell , i am not doing a sump setup so i wanna have very good filtration. Its going to be a FOWLR for a while with some easy maintence and hardy inverts. The fish are just going to be a pair of Ocellaris clown fish"tank bred". Im going to obvoiusly wait till the tanks perameters are right before i add fish or inverts but would love to hear any of your opinions or get some guidence.
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Well a sump will prob we the way i will go alil down the road but for now will the canister do the job? I know guys who have very well established tank without a sump. But yes i agree i will get a sump later on becouse they are great.
 
I understand that a sump is better becouse its better at controlling nitrate and phosphate, but is there any simple way to set one up and what size sump should i get for a 29 gallon tank. Might as well do that and set up the tank the right way instead of doing it down the road. Any help with what i should get sump wise.
 
I understand that a sump is better becouse its better at controlling nitrate and phosphate, but is there any simple way to set one up and what size sump should i get for a 29 gallon tank. Might as well do that and set up the tank the right way instead of doing it down the road. Any help with what i should get sump wise.

I think this is a smart idea. You could start with the canister, but you would most likely end up replacing it with a sump before long anyway and then you are spending more money.

For sumps you really can go one of 2 ways. Either buy a sump from any number of companies or make one out of a suitable sized fish tank and add baffles using acrylic and silicone. Either way will work well, but making your own is generally a lot cheaper. If you don't want to mess around with building the baffles and such I would recommend looking for a used sump on your local fish club site, craigslist, etc. Used ones can generally be had for reasonably because new ones tend to be quite pricey.

For the sump, you want the biggest one you can fit in your stand and still fit your equipment(like skimmers or any reactors you might use(like carbon or GFO)). Generally this will be about a 10 gallon tank, but depending on dimensions you will have to measure and see what you can fit. When measuring try to picture everything in there and make sure you can still get your hands in there to clean.

Which ever way you chooose, you will need an overflow for your tank. This overflow can be built in if you buy a drilled tank(best way), drilled yourself after buying a non-drilled tank(also best way), or getting an overflow box that hangs on the rim of the tank(not as good of a way, but it works. I use this way, but wouldn't if I was setting up a new tank. Much more of a hassle and risk of problems like flooding and pump burning out from running dry). You will also need a return pump either way. The return pump should be rated for less than overflow. Remember to look at the head height you have when deciding on a pump. Generally the rim of your tank will be about 5 feet off the ground and the pump you buy will run at a much lower flow rate at 5 feet than 0 feet(which is what the advertised rating is for) because of gravity causing pressure.

On a 29 gallon tank, you only need a couple hundred gallons per hour of flow through your sump. So the overflow should be rated for that and then the matching pump.

Continue to post any questions you have and we will try to guide you thru the process.
 
imstill goin to prob go with a sump but what if i did a fx5 on the tank instead. I love this filter and since it has alot of bio capacity and medea would it work or will it be too much for that tank? Just curious on what everyone thinks.
 
I have a 75 gallon Fish only salt tank that I dont run a sump with and it has been great. If you really want to learn alot quick about initial tank setup you can try www.garf.org. For instance I do alot of things differently but naturally. Keep in mind my tank has been running for five years now with zero problems. I run a 2000 gallon per hour pump just to keep the water circulating very well. In addition to this pump I run four powerheads to create a vortex of swirling water in my tank. I use no filters only a protein skimmer and live rock. If you have good healthy live rock you dont need chemical filtration. Buy a good clean up crew I buy from www.reefs2go.com and read their suggestions for clean up crew on your size tank. I run 100 blue leg hermits, 25 scarlet hermits, and 50 red hermets plus turbo snails and nerite snails. I dont even run a heater as malfunctioning heaters and one of the worst killers of a good salt tank. I run my tank on an interior wall of my house and let the house temp regulate the temp of the water. Plus all the pumps that I run generate a decent amount of heat in the tank. In my 75 gallon I have 60 pounds of live sand, and 120 pounds of live rock. Just something for you too think about in addition to the way most other people run their tanks. Also I do water changes only once monthly
 
wow thank you!!! I thought i could run a canister only if i had good kleaners live rock and sand and water movment but wasnt sure who else was sumpless. I understand a sump is a bter way of filtration but i was always told a gud canister will go along way with a good living setup and slow gradual progress.Thanks i love how you do it differntly but still have a healthy and awsome tank
 
I understand that a sump is better becouse its better at controlling nitrate and phosphate, but is there any simple way to set one up and what size sump should i get for a 29 gallon tank. Might as well do that and set up the tank the right way instead of doing it down the road. Any help with what i should get sump wise.

The rule of thumb is apparently have it 1/3 the tanks volume I was told so your looking at like a 10 gallon sump, however the bigger the better....more room for equipment, refugium space, bio load, more stable....etc

Yes like you've said canister is ok in the beginning, but your going to want to end up with a sump like you've said.

I personally stated with a canister....hated it many reasons (cleaning often, nitrate factory,...)
You will defiantly enjoy this tank build...keep us posted
 
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