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Just wanted to say hello everyone. I am new to the forum and wanted to ask a few things. First off I have been playing with aquariums probably ever since ainqas about 7. Started off with a 30 gallon tank fresh water with all the usual types of fish. Eventually I moved into saltwater with 2 x 90 gallon tall tanks, one with reef setup, friendly fish and corals. The other was predator, mainly eels and lionfish and a gorgeous emperor angel. Getting older work took over much of my time and I ended up selling those due to cost of caring and just didn't have the proper time. Now alot older I have a 65 gallon, live planted tank. Built my own wet dry sump, and lots of diff fish.3 Discus ( melon and turquoise (2 look paired up), breeder pr electric blue acaras plus 1 other, feather fin catfish, 2 pairs of diff geophagus, a few boesmani rainbows( had more but got eaten by parrots I gave away), 2 peacock gudgeons, 3 empire gudgeons ( 2 female 1 male) black killing loach, sultan pleco, royal pleco, reg pleco, tiretrack eel and a golden or similar panchax killifish and 2 breeder pr of convicts, a electric blue jack Dempsey, 2 x bush fish. ( not the best for breeding fish lol). 2 algae eaters.
I think thats everything. I have just had 2 of electric blue acaras ( noticed someone else's post about them) they laid tons of eggs this past Saturday Nov 11/2023. They all hatched this morning Nov 13/2023. Id say just about every single one made it. I guess my biggest question, since in all these years of not having much success with breeding or fry surviving. Im going to get some microworms hopefully!! When to start feeding them. I have left babies with the parents. They laid them in a pot and dug 2 big pits in the sand, the 2nd one I only found after they moved all the fry this morning. Seem to be in a very secure location. How long should I leave them, my biggest fear are the bush fish. Should I leave for a week and move to diff tank or bucket. I have one running now with water and air sponge running from big tank so cycling shouldn't be an issue. Or should I just leave them and see what happens. The fact they all hatched first time is probably pretty rare in itself. The parents have been excellent so far. Not that I can see the fry now. They put into a pit behind the pot. And its got a small one way in almost. The back has a tiny vent and they guard them really well.
To sum up.
1. When to start feeding fry food or microworms
2. Should I remove them and when do you think. I saw 1 inch but catching will be a nightmare...I could try to suck them up.
3. Any other advice.
 
Just wanted to say hello everyone. I am new to the forum and wanted to ask a few things. First off I have been playing with aquariums probably ever since ainqas about 7. Started off with a 30 gallon tank fresh water with all the usual types of fish. Eventually I moved into saltwater with 2 x 90 gallon tall tanks, one with reef setup, friendly fish and corals. The other was predator, mainly eels and lionfish and a gorgeous emperor angel. Getting older work took over much of my time and I ended up selling those due to cost of caring and just didn't have the proper time. Now alot older I have a 65 gallon, live planted tank. Built my own wet dry sump, and lots of diff fish.3 Discus ( melon and turquoise (2 look paired up), breeder pr electric blue acaras plus 1 other, feather fin catfish, 2 pairs of diff geophagus, a few boesmani rainbows( had more but got eaten by parrots I gave away), 2 peacock gudgeons, 3 empire gudgeons ( 2 female 1 male) black killing loach, sultan pleco, royal pleco, reg pleco, tiretrack eel and a golden or similar panchax killifish and 2 breeder pr of convicts, a electric blue jack Dempsey, 2 x bush fish. ( not the best for breeding fish lol). 2 algae eaters.
I think thats everything. I have just had 2 of electric blue acaras ( noticed someone else's post about them) they laid tons of eggs this past Saturday Nov 11/2023. They all hatched this morning Nov 13/2023. Id say just about every single one made it. I guess my biggest question, since in all these years of not having much success with breeding or fry surviving. Im going to get some microworms hopefully!! When to start feeding them. I have left babies with the parents. They laid them in a pot and dug 2 big pits in the sand, the 2nd one I only found after they moved all the fry this morning. Seem to be in a very secure location. How long should I leave them, my biggest fear are the bush fish. Should I leave for a week and move to diff tank or bucket. I have one running now with water and air sponge running from big tank so cycling shouldn't be an issue. Or should I just leave them and see what happens. The fact they all hatched first time is probably pretty rare in itself. The parents have been excellent so far. Not that I can see the fry now. They put into a pit behind the pot. And its got a small one way in almost. The back has a tiny vent and they guard them really well.
To sum up.
1. When to start feeding fry food or microworms
2. Should I remove them and when do you think. I saw 1 inch but catching will be a nightmare...I could try to suck them up.
3. Any other advice.
welcome to MFK
 
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Just wanted to say hello everyone. I am new to the forum and wanted to ask a few things. First off I have been playing with aquariums probably ever since ainqas about 7. Started off with a 30 gallon tank fresh water with all the usual types of fish. Eventually I moved into saltwater with 2 x 90 gallon tall tanks, one with reef setup, friendly fish and corals. The other was predator, mainly eels and lionfish and a gorgeous emperor angel. Getting older work took over much of my time and I ended up selling those due to cost of caring and just didn't have the proper time. Now alot older I have a 65 gallon, live planted tank. Built my own wet dry sump, and lots of diff fish.3 Discus ( melon and turquoise (2 look paired up), breeder pr electric blue acaras plus 1 other, feather fin catfish, 2 pairs of diff geophagus, a few boesmani rainbows( had more but got eaten by parrots I gave away), 2 peacock gudgeons, 3 empire gudgeons ( 2 female 1 male) black killing loach, sultan pleco, royal pleco, reg pleco, tiretrack eel and a golden or similar panchax killifish and 2 breeder pr of convicts, a electric blue jack Dempsey, 2 x bush fish. ( not the best for breeding fish lol). 2 algae eaters.
I think thats everything. I have just had 2 of electric blue acaras ( noticed someone else's post about them) they laid tons of eggs this past Saturday Nov 11/2023. They all hatched this morning Nov 13/2023. Id say just about every single one made it. I guess my biggest question, since in all these years of not having much success with breeding or fry surviving. Im going to get some microworms hopefully!! When to start feeding them. I have left babies with the parents. They laid them in a pot and dug 2 big pits in the sand, the 2nd one I only found after they moved all the fry this morning. Seem to be in a very secure location. How long should I leave them, my biggest fear are the bush fish. Should I leave for a week and move to diff tank or bucket. I have one running now with water and air sponge running from big tank so cycling shouldn't be an issue. Or should I just leave them and see what happens. The fact they all hatched first time is probably pretty rare in itself. The parents have been excellent so far. Not that I can see the fry now. They put into a pit behind the pot. And its got a small one way in almost. The back has a tiny vent and they guard them really well.
To sum up.
1. When to start feeding fry food or microworms
2. Should I remove them and when do you think. I saw 1 inch but catching will be a nightmare...I could try to suck them up.
3. Any other advice.

First off, welcome to the fun group!

Second...are all of those fish in the same tank? If so, you have quite an overstocked tank. I think you should remove a lot of those, or get new tanks and put them in there.
 
Welcome to the fishy family!

So the thing with fry is what conditions are in your tank. Very clean, no plants, etc basically barren? Or is it a planted tank with lots of algea growth so forth.

If the latter you shouldn't have to feed the fry at all. The parents will herd them around the tank to graze upon the micro flora and fauna.
Now if it's the barren tank you will need to start feeding the fry by day four after hatching. Naturally the fry have a three to four day "egg sac" they feed off of as they learn to swim and fins develop for swimming. That is the point the parents start to herd them around to feed.


Here can see how the fry graze
 
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Well, i had only skimmed earlier and saw the questions on fry, but after reading it in full that sounds more like fish stew than a fish tank, you have all these fish in a single 65 gallon tank? Are they all 1 inch long babies?
 
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Well, i had only skimmed earlier and saw the questions on fry, but after reading it in full that sounds more like fish stew than a fish tank, you have all these fish in a single 65 gallon tank? Are they all 1 inch long babies?

^^^ agreed ^^^
 
If you don't want to try and make Baby brine shrimp, Hikari makes a fry food. It's called First Bites. Unlike just crushed up adult food it has something in it that keeps it from instantly dissolving into the water. I have used it with great success. Remember it's better to feed many small meals that a couple big ones as far as fry are concerned.
 
Sorry most of them are in 65 but some are in a smaller tank. The tank is filled with all live plants, using fertilizers, liquid and pellets. Also have Co2. Water changes every other day to 3 days. Tank is doing really well. Removed a ton of rock a little while ago as too much waste was collecting and causing algae. Water is great now, super stable. Test regularly to make sure it is. I should have mentioned the 2nd tank , sorry didn't mean they were all loaded into one. Most are pretty small the discus and acaras are largest. Even my eel is only like 3 to 4 inches. With all the plants I think the bio load is pretty stable so I'm not too worried. My kids are the fault for so many fish Lol. One day ill get another tank and split them up.
So what ur saying is I shouldn't have to worry too much about feeding. I was going to wait a week or so then remove babies and start them on microworms and vinegar eels.
 
In a planted tank there will be micro flora and fauna that the fry can feed off of. You can supplement if you choose. Grow out some baby brine shrimp and feed that to them as well or the First Bites I mentioned. But in a mature planted tank there should be plenty of natural food for the parents to herd them around to graze upon.
I wouldn't separate the fry from the parents unless you already have a mature planted tank for them,or are ready to do the 6 or so feedings they will need a day.
Plus separating the fry brings its own problems. With out the fry being present the male will want to breed again. This will put undo pressure on the female as it will take her some time to make another batch of eggs, a couple weeks at least. You may even have to separate if he gets to aggressive.
 
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