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Masa06;5142432; said:
I say for a starter snake a king cobra, inland taipan, or maybe a jamesons mamba. I am just kidding I was in the mood for a stupidly sarcastic answer. But yeah get a kingsnake, milk snake or ball python. If you get a kingsnake get a little bit older one, as babies they can be A** holes and like to bite and LOVE to musk, which may turn you off to snakes
worlds deadliest snake..(i know your joking)
 
Yellow_Perch;5142455; said:
worlds deadliest snake..(i know your joking)


That's debatable. Apparently that is based on the fact that they have the most toxic snake venom, but I've been led to believe that Hydrophis Belcheri possesses a much more toxic venom, although it rarely bites. And inland taipans are not really aggressive. I think to say a snake is the deadliest it needs to be highly toxic, and have a nasty temperament, so I don't think the taipan can be #1. I'm not sure what it would be, but I think people give the taipan too much credit as the deadliest snake. I mean it can't be the deadliest if the thing rarely bites, right? I believe that all confirmed inland bites have been on herpetologists who were handling the snake.

I would believe the Black Mamba would have to be way up on that list because of it's toxicity, it's higher level of aggression compared to taipans, and the sheer amounts of venom that it is capable of delivering (up to 4x the maximum recorded amount of the inland taipan). A mamba is much more likely to stand it's ground in a confrontation than a taipan, which means a higher chance of a human being bit in an encounter with one.

But that's off topic. I think it would make a decent thread though.;)
 
Well if your going to talka bout the worlds deadliest being the one that is most detrimental to humans I think that falls on the humble monocled cobra... or the indian cobra...one of those two. The combination of proximity to humans and lack of medical treatment in their range gives them the most deaths under their belt last I heard.
But as far as toxicity goes I always though it was the Fierce snake (inland taipan)
 
Sylvias;5143390; said:
Well if your going to talka bout the worlds deadliest being the one that is most detrimental to humans I think that falls on the humble monocled cobra... or the indian cobra...one of those two. The combination of proximity to humans and lack of medical treatment in their range gives them the most deaths under their belt last I heard.
But as far as toxicity goes I always though it was the Fierce snake (inland taipan)
Either them or Bothrops asper. The Fierce snake has the most toxic venom of any land snake, sea snakes are worse, though I forget which is the worst out of all of them.. Most people tend to not count sea snakes as bites from them are incredibly rare.
 
A. gigas;5143548; said:
Either them or Bothrops asper. The Fierce snake has the most toxic venom of any land snake, sea snakes are worse, though I forget which is the worst out of all of them.. Most people tend to not count sea snakes as bites from them are incredibly rare.


I count sea snakes. They are venomous snakes that has the capability to bite a human. I don't know why it would be ruled out. Bites from inland taipans are incredibly rare as well, and I don't believe there are any confirmed cases of bites on people in the wild from inland taipans, except those on herpetologists trying to capture the snake, or otherwise harass it. That was the point I was making. Hydrophis Belcheri has the most toxic venom of any snake on the planet, but I don't consider them even top 5 due to their reluctance to bite. I was just saying that to state a snake as being the deadliest, wouldn't need to have more than 10-20 (or whatever small number it is, I don't know exactly, but it is small) confirmed bites, like the taipan has?

I would tend to agree more with Sylvias. I can't see a snake being the "deadliest" if it only bites scientist who are fondling them for studies. I mean its a solid #1 in toxicity if you totally rule out sea snakes, but I don't know why you would. And were talking deadliest, not most toxic. There are really too many factors to come up with a solid #1 "deadliest snake", but sea snake don't get the respect they deserve.

I follow that up by saying that if you get bit by a taipan or a Hydrophis Belcheri, I would update your will on the way to the hospital, if you aren't unconscious yet, cause that venom is gonna mess you up.
 
Joe M;5144540; said:
I count sea snakes. They are venomous snakes that has the capability to bite a human. I don't know why it would be ruled out. Bites from inland taipans are incredibly rare as well, and I don't believe there are any confirmed cases of bites on people in the wild from inland taipans, except those on herpetologists trying to capture the snake, or otherwise harass it. That was the point I was making. Hydrophis Belcheri has the most toxic venom of any snake on the planet, but I don't consider them even top 5 due to their reluctance to bite. I was just saying that to state a snake as being the deadliest, wouldn't need to have more than 10-20 (or whatever small number it is, I don't know exactly, but it is small) confirmed bites, like the taipan has?

I would tend to agree more with Sylvias. I can't see a snake being the "deadliest" if it only bites scientist who are fondling them for studies. I mean its a solid #1 in toxicity if you totally rule out sea snakes, but I don't know why you would. And were talking deadliest, not most toxic. There are really too many factors to come up with a solid #1 "deadliest snake", but sea snake don't get the respect they deserve.

I follow that up by saying that if you get bit by a taipan or a Hydrophis Belcheri, I would update your will on the way to the hospital, if you aren't unconscious yet, cause that venom is gonna mess you up.

I know you're google'ing those names lol.

But on topic imo you cannot beat a cornsnake as a starter snake. grows to a good size, can be kept in a 20L and hardly ever has feeding / shed problems
 
Mikeyy;5144628; said:
I know you're google'ing those names lol.

But on topic imo you cannot beat a cornsnake as a starter snake. grows to a good size, can be kept in a 20L and hardly ever has feeding / shed problems


Naw not really. You know me better than that. I constantly amaze you with my vast knowledge of both reptiles and fish.:grinno:

But yes I googled the name of the sea snake because I couldn't remember it. I knew exactly what it was and that it was some type of banded sea snake, but I needed the Latin name.
 
Joe M;5144540; said:
I count sea snakes. They are venomous snakes that has the capability to bite a human. I don't know why it would be ruled out. Bites from inland taipans are incredibly rare as well, and I don't believe there are any confirmed cases of bites on people in the wild from inland taipans, except those on herpetologists trying to capture the snake, or otherwise harass it. That was the point I was making. Hydrophis Belcheri has the most toxic venom of any snake on the planet, but I don't consider them even top 5 due to their reluctance to bite. I was just saying that to state a snake as being the deadliest, wouldn't need to have more than 10-20 (or whatever small number it is, I don't know exactly, but it is small) confirmed bites, like the taipan has?

I would tend to agree more with Sylvias. I can't see a snake being the "deadliest" if it only bites scientist who are fondling them for studies. I mean its a solid #1 in toxicity if you totally rule out sea snakes, but I don't know why you would. And were talking deadliest, not most toxic. There are really too many factors to come up with a solid #1 "deadliest snake", but sea snake don't get the respect they deserve.
I agree with all of this, I don't see a good enough reason not to count Sea Snakes either..
 
Joe M;5144763; said:
Naw not really. You know me better than that. I constantly amaze you with my vast knowledge of both reptiles and fish.:grinno:

But yes I googled the name of the sea snake because I couldn't remember it. I knew exactly what it was and that it was some type of banded sea snake, but I needed the Latin name.
:ROFL:
 
Great way to derail the thread guys :D
 
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