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Been considering getting into salt but I have no clue where to start. Im just looking for an eel. Im awesoming just fowlr but will this work with an eel? I just dont know where to start!! Help!! What do I need? Iv got some spare tanks(40g, 25g, 35g which will likly be the one I start with, antique 20g, 10g etc) some spare filters, spare lights, hydrometer(had a mild brackish tank for flounder that literrally disappeared) etc. I just have no clue where to start!! I just need another eel :D. Help me out!! Point me!! A broken down list and tips rather than shoving me onto a article would be more helpful btw.
 
If you want an eel, I would recommend using the 40g. What sort of extra filters do you have? You should definitely look into getting a protein skimmer. I highly recommend them. They will pull stuff out of your tank that you didn't even think was possible. The one I use on my 75gal is a Reef Octopus BH-100. They're relatively cheap only around 100-120$ online and are great skimmers. In the 40gal you would be able to keep snowflake eels as well as a few of the smaller species of morays. If you can use a sump on the tank, do it. It will give the best possible filtration as well as open up in-sump protein skimmers to you.
 
Are protine skimmers necessary? I got some very large HOB filters. I was gonna use the 35g because I have a nice stand for it aswell as some nice lids/lights though Ill need new bulbs.

Im trying to do this on a budget. Not alot of spare cash. My other hobbys(such as my caiman den, guns, tattoos) the fact my wife should have our daughter any day now and work possibly cutting my pay over 25% spare cash just isnt there.

I dont have any spare stands for the 40g. My only 40g stand is occupied by my wifes 40g tank.

I wont be doing a sump. None of my tanks are drilled and im not drilling them.

The 35g wouldnt be the perm tank btw.
 
The protein skimmer isn't necessary if its not the permanent tank. If you were going to keep a larger eel in the tank though it would certainly help out a ton. Planting macro algae in the tank helps out also and you don't need very strong lighting for them to grow. Which type of eel were you thinking of?
 
Alright, man, you're going to try the dark side out! :thumbsup:

Just to check, are the dimensions of the 35 gallon something like 30" x 20" x 22" (LxWxH)? If so, then I think that you have a 37 gallon (which only really holds around 35 gallons).

I'll start with your minimal start-up list in this post and will elaborate more on other things in further posts.

Minimal Recommended Start-Up:
  • Aragonite sand-- enough to form a 0.5" to 1" layer (unless burrowing fishes are being kept); 30 lbs. should be more than enough
  • High quality dry rock-- one pound per gallon or so
  • High quality live rock-- just used for seeding the dry rock; check for parasites and other nuisances
  • Protein skimmer-- not sure on brands for larger ones; be sure to oversize it since it's your most important piece of equipment
  • HOB Filter(s)-- Use these for mechanical and chemical filtration only; a filter sponge and/or pad + Purigen combo will work nicely
  • Powerheads-- circulation is very important and helps to prevent dead spots & detritus build-up
  • Lighting-- go for a 50/50 split of high K rated white lights and actinic (blue) lights
  • Heater-- shoot for one that will keep the water at 78°F
  • Salt mix-- I've used the original Instant Ocean and Coralife salt with good results; get enough to get a specific gravity of 1.023 to 1.026
  • Mixing container-- Mix and aerate your saltwater for a few days before using it for water changes; a large Rubbermaid garbage can works nicely
  • Saltwater test kit-- Very important; get one that does at least pH, ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, and phosphate
  • Hydrometer-- Used for testing salt levels (specific gravity); refractometer is way more accurate than a hydrometer but costs much more

Amusingly enough, you can get just about everything you need by taking a trip to PetSmart (which doesn't even sell saltwater fishes) and by ordering some cheap dry rock online (way cheaper than live rock; just takes longer to become "live"). I provided links for some recommended products, and you should be able to find most of them available locally at or below the example prices; I recommend ordering the dry rock, though, because you really can't beat that price considering that you will most likely get more than you ordered (I ordered 6 lbs. and got 9 lbs.; turned out to be on purpose rather than a mistake). If you still wish to cut out the skimmer, then be sure to overfilter/understock, avoid overfeeding, and do larger water changes, if need be. Do not cut out the powerheads no matter what; water flow is very important for maintaining a healthy saltwater aquarium (plus it helps to keep the nuisance algae to a minimum).
 
Now then, on to your proposed stock.

I would go with a snowflake eel because they're inexpensive, readily available, and beginner-friendly. I say get a smaller one because you don't want a baby (too fragile), but you don't one the size of what I have (too big for that aquarium). They can growth 0.5" per month if kept well-fed; the one I have hasn't grown that much, but I have noticed a slight increase in its growth rate upon getting to eat foods other than frozen whole krill (only thing it got at the LFS). A varied diet of frozen foods is best, and these eels love to eat frozen seafood such as whole krill, squid, and octopus. These eels feed on invertebrates and have teeth that are meant for shell-cracking rather than gripping, so they sometimes can be kept with other fishes if kept well-fed; however, they may go after invertebrates even if well-fed, so be prepared to replenish your hermits on a somewhat regular basis. Be sure to provide it with plenty of caves, and also have a tight-fitting lid to prevent an escape. If you wish to test if your eel is at least somewhat community safe, then introduce a small damsel that's been quarantined and adjusted to the aquarium water; these fishes are super cheap (maybe $5 at PetCo), are colorful, and are pretty much bulletproof. They can be aggressive, so be sure to research the particular species beforehand; I found the yellowtail damsel to be pleasantly colored (blue with a yellow tail) yet reasonably non-aggressive (bottom of the ladder in my aquarium). You're going to be at full capacity (if not over if not upgraded soon enough) between those two fishes when they're small, so adding further fishes is not recommended.

As for your invertebrates, get a mix of dwarf blue leg hermit crabs and snails; those two groups of invertebrates will help to keep the algae and detritus in check while keeping your sand bed well-stirred. LiveAquaria.com has a pretty sweet deal on a "Build Your Own Reef Cleaner Package," and you'll spend way less than what you would at an LFS; the shipping is free, and everything has a 14 day money back guarantee. I also have some fighting conchs in my aquarium to help with the detritus and sand stirring, but they need supplemental feeding if there's not enough detritus; they are also a big help when it comes to cleaning up leftover eel food since I tend to overfeed him in order to ensure that the trigger gets some food, too.
 
I almost forgot to mention about cycling! Cycling is super important for saltwater aquariums and is what makes your sand and rock into live sand & live rock. Don't forget that your live rock is your main biological filter followed by your live sand.

I know you wanted a broken down list, but this thread here on MFK (in this section's stickies, actually) explains it pretty well and provides instructions.

Also, I forgot to mention in my equipment post that the plastic egg-crate stuff that's used on office lights makes a good bottom layer for the aquarium; it helps to hold the rock in place while helping to prevent you from breaking the glass by dropping a rock (as well as other benefits).

Macro algae, specifically chaeto, is great for helping with nitrates and phosphates plus it provides a home for copepods and other plankton. You can easily convert one of your HOB filters into a hang-on refugium by adding a clip light and some chaeto.

I've probably left some other things out, but that should give you a pretty good start; you know how to contact me if you have any other questions that I didn't cover.
 
Thanks for your post ryan. Im still deciding wether or not to jump into salt. Ahh forgot the stickies. Its wierd using this app. Lol. Ill post what I got tomorrow. Im at work for today. I know my lights are thin florecents. Its a single light fixture but I can double them up easy enough. I have a variety of HOB filters including some big ones.

I was thinking of a snowflake and just that. No interest in anything else. Just SW eels. :D
 
I suggest 3reef.com or reefcentral.com. My personal favorite is 3reef.com. Also try to find a local club.

My best advice I can give you, is to take your time. In freshwater its easy to jump right in. Saltwater is another monster. Just take it really slow, do each step and wait a couple days.
 
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