Nikon D5000 or Canon 450D?

[chonhzilla]

Ok, I have been conducting research for a few months now and I feel that I am finally ready to make a purchase, but I am currently torn between these two DSLR's. Both are pretty close and similar in a few aspects. The first one is the Nikon D5000, secondly; it's the Canon 450D ( Rebel XSi )


Here's the problem, I will be getting these two camera's for the same price with these accessories. I need a "TIE BREAKER"

the D5000 comes with the 18-55MM VR lens + 55-200MM VR lens + extra battery

the XSi comes with 18-55MM lens + 55-250MM lens + extra battery

What are your thoughts and why?

Nikon D5000 ​

Sensor
• 12.3 million effective pixels
• 23.6 x 15.8 mm CMOS (DX format)
Image sizes
• 4,288 x 2,848 (12 MP)
• 3,216 x 2,136
• 2,144 x 1,424
Sensor cleaning
• Image Sensor Cleaning
• Airflow control system
• Image Dust Off reference data (optional Capture NX 2 software required)
Autofocus
• 11 area TTL
• Nikon Multi-CAM1000
In-body focus motor
• No
AF area modes
• Single point
• Dynamic area
• Auto area
• 3D Tracking (11-points)
Live view AF modes
• Face priority
• Wide area
• Normal area
• Subject tracking
Sensitivity
• ISO 200 - 3200
• ISO 100-6400 with boost
Continuous
• 4 fps
• 63 / 11 frames (Fine JPEG / RAW)
Viewfinder type
• Pentamirror
Viewfinder magnification
• 0.78x
Viewfinder Frame coverage
• Approx. 95%
LCD monitor
• 2.7" TFT LCD
• 230,000 pixel TFT
• Articulated
Dimensions
127 x 104 x 80 mm (5.0 x 4.1 x 3.1 in)
Weight
• No battery: 560 g (1.2 lb)
• With battery: 611 g (1.3 lb)
Image processing engine
• Expeed
• 12 bit
Active D-lighting
Can be selected from Auto, Extra high, High, Normal, Low, or Off
Automatic chromatic aberration correction
Yes
In-camera retouching
• D-Lighting
• Red-eye reduction
• Trimming
• Monochrome & filter effects
• Color balance
• Small picture
• Image overlay
• NEF (RAW) processing
• Quick retouch
• Straighten
• Distortion control
• Fisheye
• Color outline
• Perspective control
Movie mode
Yes
Live View
Yes
Bracketing
Yes








Canon 450D Rebel XSi

List price (US) • Body only: $799
• Kit: $899 (with 18-55 mm IS lens)
List price (EU) • Body only: €749
• Kit: €849 (with 18-55 mm IS lens)
International naming • US: Canon Rebel Digital XSi
• Japan: Canon EOS Kiss Digital x2
• Elsewhere: Canon EOS 450D Body material Plastic (Stainless Steel chassis) Sensor * • 12.2 million effective pixels
• 12.4 million total pixels
• 22.2 x 14.8 mm CMOS sensor
• RGB Color Filter Array
• Built-in low-pass filter with self cleaning unit
• 3:2 aspect ratio Dust reduction • Low-pass filter vibration at power-on (can be interrupted)
• Anti-static coating on sensor surfaces
• Software based dust-removal (camera maps dust, removed later) Image sizes * • 4272 x 2848 (L)
• 3088 x 2056 (M)
• 2256 x 1504 (S) Output formats • RAW (.CR2 14-bit *)
• RAW (.CR2 14-bit *) + JPEG Large/Fine
• JPEG (EXIF 2.21) - Fine, Normal Image processor * DIGIC III Lenses • Canon EF / EF-S lens mount
• 1.6x field of view crop Focus modes • Auto Focus
• Manual Focus (switch on lens) Auto Focus • 9-point CMOS sensor
• Cross-type F2.8 at center *
• AF working range: -0.5 to 18 EV (at 23°C, ISO 100) AF modes • AI Focus
• One shot
• AI Servo AF point selection • Auto
• Manual AF assist Flash strobe Shooting modes • Auto
• Program AE (P)
• Shutter priority AE (Tv)
• Aperture priority AE (Av)
• Manual (M)
• Auto depth-of-field
• Portrait
• Landscape
• Close-up
• Sports
• Night portrait
• Flash off Metering • TTL 35-zone SPC
• Metering range: EV 1.0 - 20 EV (at 23°C, ISO 100, 50 mm F1.4) Metering modes • Evaluative 35-zone
• Partial 9% at center
• Spot 4% at center *
• Center-weighted average AE Lock AE lock button AE Bracketing • +/- 3.0 EV *
• 0.5 or 0.3 EV increments Exposure compen. • +/- 2.0 EV
• 0.5 or 0.3 EV increments
Sensitivity • Auto (100 - 400)
• ISO 100
• ISO 200
• ISO 400
• ISO 800
• ISO 1600
• Highlight tone priority * (ISO 200 - 1600)
Shutter • Focal-plane shutter
• 30 - 1/4000 sec (0.5 or 0.3 EV steps)
• Flash X-Sync: 1/200 sec
• Bulb Aperture values • F1.0 - F91 (0.3 EV steps)
• Actual aperture range depends on lens used White balance • Auto
• Daylight
• Shade
• Cloudy
• Tungsten
• Fluorescent
• Flash
• Custom WB Bracketing • +/-3 levels
• 3 images
• Selectable Blue/Amber or Magenta/Green bias WB fine-tuning • Blue (-9) To Amber (+9)
• Magenta (-9) to Green (+9) Color space • sRGB
• Adobe RGB Picture style • Standard
• Portrait
• Landscape
• Neutral
• Faithful
• Monochrome
• User 1
• User 2
• User 3 Custom image parameters • Sharpness: 0 to 7
• Contrast: -4 to +4
• Saturation: -4 to +4
• Color tone: -4 to +4
• B&W filter: N, Ye, Or, R, G
• B&W tone: N, S, B, P, G Drive modes • Single
• Continuous: 3.5 fps up to 53 JPEG / 6 RAW frames
• Self-timer 10 secs (2 sec with mirror lock-up)
• Self-timer continuous * Mirror lockup Yes (custom function) Viewfinder • Pentamirror
• 95% frame coverage
• Magnification: 0.87x * (-1 diopter with 50 mm lens at infinity)
• Eyepoint: 19 mm *
• Dioptric adjustment: -3.0 to +1.0 diopter
• Fixed precision matte
• Proximity sensor disables LCD shooting mode information Viewfinder info * • AF information (AF points focus confirmation light)
• Shutter speed
• Aperture value
• ISO speed (always displayed)
• AE lock
• Exposure level/compensation
• Spot metering circle
• Exposure warning
• AEB
• Flash ready
• High-speed sync
• FE lock
• Flash exposure compensation
• Red-eye reduction light
• White balance correction
• SD card information
• Monochrome shooting
• Maximum burst DOF preview Yes, button LCD monitor * • 3.0" TFT LCD
• 230,000 pixels
• Wide viewing angle (160° horizontal and vertical)
• 7 brightness levels
• Up to 10x zoom playback LCD Live view * • Live TTL display of scene from CMOS image sensor
• 100% frame coverage
• Real-time evaluative metering using CMOS image sensor
• Best view or exposure simulation
• Grid optional (thirds)
• Magnify optional (5x or 10x at AF point)
• Optional Auto-focus with mirror-down / mirror-up sequence
• Two modes; normal and quieter
• Remote live view using EOS Utility 2.0 (via USB or WiFi/Ethernet using WFT)
• Manual focus only
Camera settings display • Shutter speed
• Aperture
• Sensitivity (ISO)
• Exposure mode
• Meter / Exposure compenation
• Bracketing
• Flash compensation
• White balance & fine tuning
• Metering mode
• Custom function set
• Auto focus mode
• Drive mode
• Auto focus areas
• Black & white mode
• Beep
• Red-eye reduction
• Image size / quality
• Battery status
• Frames remaining Record review • Uses last play mode
• Magnification possible
• 2 / 4 / 8 sec / Hold Flash • Auto pop-up E-TTL II auto flash
• Guide number approx 13
• Modes: Auto, Manual Flash On/ Off, Red-Eye Reduction
• X-Sync: 1/200 sec
• Flash exposure compensation: +/-2.0 EV (0.3 or 0.5 EV steps)
• Coverage up to 17 mm focal length (27 mm FOV equiv.) External flash • E-TTL II auto flash with EX-series Speedlites
• Hot-shoe Other features • Orientation sensor
• Automatically writes FAT16/FAT32 depending on capacity Auto rotation • On (playback uses orientation data in file header)
• Off Playback mode • Single image
• Single image with info (histogram brightness / RGB )
• Magnified view (1.5 - 10x in 15 steps, browsable)
• 4 and 9 image index *
• Auto play
• Image rotation
• Jump (by 10, 100 or date) Custom functions * 13 custom functions with 34 settings Menu languages * • English
• German
• French
• Dutch
• Danish
• Portuguese
• Finnish
• Italian
• Norwegian
• Swedish
• Spanish
• Greek
• Simplified Chinese
• Japanese
• Traditional Chinese
• Korean
• Russian
• Polish
• Hungarian
• Czech
Firmware User upgradable Connectivity • USB 2.0 (Hi-Speed) mini-B
• Video out (PAL / NTSC)
• E3 type wired remote control
Storage * • SD / SDHC card Power * • Lithium-Ion LP-E5 rechargeable battery (7.4 V, 1050 mAh)
• CR2016 Lithium battery (date/time backup)
• Optional ACK-E5 AC adapter kit Battery Grip * Yes, BG-E5 Direct printing • Canon Selphy Printers
• Canon Bubble Jet Printers with direct print function
• Canon PIXMA Printers supporting PictBridge
• PictBridge Dimensions * 129 x 98 x 62 mm (5.1 x 3.9 x 2.4 in) Weight (no battery) * 475 g (1.0 lb) Software • Zoom Browser EX / ImageBrowser
• PhotoStitch
• EOS Utility (inc. Remote Capture; Windows & Mac except Mac Intel)
• Digital Photo Professional (Windows / Mac)



Thanks for looking and I need your help.

Chonh



References

Butler, Richard (2009) Nikon D5000 Review, http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Nikond5000/ retrieved Nov. 10 2009

Digital Photography Review (2008) Canon EOS 450D / Rebel XSi, http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012403canoneos450d.asp retrieved Nov. 10 2009

 

[jcardona1]

does canon's lens come with the "VR" feature that the nikon does? the VR comes in handy on long zoom lens, like the 55-200. im partial to nikons, but thats because i own one LOL.

so, the question to ask yourself is how serious are you about photography? ive owned my D40 for a few months now and im already realizing that i should have spend more for a D90 or better.

im not sure about the D5000, but the biggest downsides of the D40 is that it doesnt have an internal focus motor, meaning it only works with AF-S lens that have a built in motor. this means you cant use the older cheaper lenses like you could on a D80 or D90. any AF-S lens you buy will cost $$$$$$$$.

another thing about the D40, it doesnt have a wireles flash commander mode. so, you cant use a wireless remote flash on top of the tank to get those awesome pics. the only way to do this is to use a cable or you have to buy a seperate unit to control the flash, which costs another $250. as you can see, it quickly makes more sense to spend more money now and get a better camera.

i believe the D5000 is a replacement of the D40, so you may want to confirm if youll have the same issues. good luck! i'm already thinking of when i upgrade to the awesome D300

 

[chonhzilla]

I;m feeling pretty serious about photography, but this will be my first DSLR, that's why I'm limiting myself to which camera I'll get. And yeah I'm aware of the AF-S lenses, pretty scary pricing, but my only reason to get the D5000 was because of its close specs to the D90 which was way out of the way for me. I figured for now I'll try my best to use the 18-55mm lens and 55-200mm lens for now.

Oh, and yes Canon's do come with it too, its called "Image stabilizer"

Thanks Jcardona1 for reminding me about the lenses, I did forget about that since my previous researches.

 

[nikond70s]

hey chonh,

if they are fairly the same in pretty much all aspects. then just choose the one that feels best in your hands. you cant go wrong with any of them. its not about the camera its about your skill sometimes. not to mention lighting is critical. so any of them will due. but if i would have to choose i would go for nikon. because nikon just feels better in my hands than canon does. and nikon built quality is a lot better then canon. nikon camera and lenses are built like tanks very sturdy as some of the canon camera's and lenese looks very cheap quality wise. so i would suggest you to go to a store and try out both of the camera's and see which one feels good in your hands.i got a feeling you will go with nikon.

oh remember, once you choose nikon or canon. you MUST stick with one of them. i dont want you regretting in the future to switch from canon to nikon or nikon to canon. then you will have to sell all your gears and you will lose money. photograhy is expensive. choose wisely my friend. but i would go with nikon all the way base on built quality and style.

 

[chonhzilla]

hey chonh,

if they are fairly the same in pretty much all aspects. then just choose the one that feels best in your hands. you cant go wrong with any of them. its not about the camera its about your skill sometimes. not to mention lighting is critical. so any of them will due. but if i would have to choose i would go for nikon. because nikon just feels better in my hands than canon does. and nikon built quality is a lot better then canon. nikon camera and lenses are built like tanks very sturdy as some of the canon camera's and lenese looks very cheap quality wise. so i would suggest you to go to a store and try out both of the camera's and see which one feels good in your hands.i got a feeling you will go with nikon.

oh remember, once you choose nikon or canon. you MUST stick with one of them. i dont want you regretting in the future to switch from canon to nikon or nikon to canon. then you will have to sell all your gears and you will lose money. photograhy is expensive. choose wisely my friend. but i would go with nikon all the way base on built quality and style.

Thanks for the input, I've personally have never used a Canon DSLR before, but I have had quite some experience with a D40's, D40X's and D80's for the most part.

Thanks again!

 

[BigJ]

I have the D5000 and love it. It's got alot to offer. Can't go wrong with Nikon

 

[chonhzilla]

I have the D5000 and love it. It's got alot to offer. Can't go wrong with Nikon

Cool, I was hoping to run into someone who actually owns one of these cameras. Did you buy yours online?

 

[RyanP]

i have and love the canon 450D

 

[chonhzilla]

i have and love the canon 450D

What are the great things about it?

 

[BigJ]

Cool, I was hoping to run into someone who actually owns one of these cameras. Did you buy yours online?

Nope, Mine was from Best Buy.