Nitrate and Water Changes

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Milo

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Found this on another forum, thought everyone would benefit from reading this.

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We all test our water. We all read the results. Do we ever stop to think about what they mean to you and your fish?

General maintenance suggests you change on average 20% of the water from your tank every week. Well looking at some results and doing some simple math, 20% is clearly not enough. In fact 50% a week is still not enough.

Below you will see a simple equation that shows how nitrates build up in a non planted tank. We will be conservative and say the tank is lightly stocked so on average the nitrates only build up to 10 ppm each week. In most cases this number is very underestimated

10ppm - one week after a 100% water change.

20% water change - multiply .20 times 10 =s 2ppm subtract that from 10.

8ppm - after 20% water change. Now add 10 ppm for the next week.

18ppm - 2 weeks after 100% water change

20% water change - multiply .20 times 18 =s 3.6ppm subtract that from 18.

14.4ppm - after 20% water change. Now add 10ppm for the next week.

24.4ppm - 3 weeks after 100% water change.

20% water change - multiply .20 times 24.4 =s 4.8ppm subtract that from 24.4

19.6ppm - after 20% water change. Now add 10ppm for the next week.

29.6ppm - after 1 month.

It's very easy to see the pattern of constant gain of the nitrate levels. Even if you do the same math with 50% water changes it quickly gets up to a little over 19ppm, and then keeping up the 50% water changes every week it slowly keeps getting higher and higher.

I guess the point to all this is to show that every now and then we need to (over the coarse of a couple of days) do a 100% water change. Just to keep the levels down.

The math looks even worse if you add the numbers and figure in a missed week where no water changes were done and extra water changes were never done to make up for it.

I would like to add that this is a very good reason to keep live plants, but please keep in mind that plants are still no substitute for water changes.
 
5 gallons a week evaporate from my 100 gallon. I refill it with fresh water. I tested my nitrate level last night about an hour after filling the tank back up. It was still in the "green" territory. :dunno:

I only have 2 fish in there and really dont over feed. Still, changing even 30% a week wouldnt be a bad idea.
 
I do 2 60 % water changes a week.. my nitrates dont go higher than 25..
a 100% change on 2 foot fish++ is not practical at all..
 
Vivid;481145; said:
5 gallons a week evaporate from my 100 gallon. I refill it with fresh water. I tested my nitrate level last night about an hour after filling the tank back up. It was still in the "green" territory. :dunno:

I only have 2 fish in there and really dont over feed. Still, changing even 30% a week wouldnt be a bad idea.

when water evaporates the nitrates dont, so when you refill it you're barely diluting the nitrates that are present.

That was an interesting post, thanks for sharing:) I'm a big advocate of the drip system. It works wonderfully for me.
 
See you guys arn't getting it, you can take the water out, but majority of the Nitrates still stay in. Its a easy formula that shows how overtime, your fish could be swimming in 100% Nitrates.
 
Milo;481169; said:
See you guys arn't getting it, you can take the water out, but majority of the Nitrates still stay in. Its a easy formula that shows how overtime, your fish could be swimming in 100% Nitrates.



Mine isnt overwhelmed with nitrates , and ive never done a 100 % water change ever.
 
I'm dripping about 24 gpd in my 265 with large fish. The nitrates went down with NO (manual) water changes and now they stay constant at about 15-20ppm. It was at 60ppm when I installed the system. I dont need an equation to tell me that it works or doesnt work. When I test the water and everything comes out ok, I get the answer.
 
rallysman;481177; said:
I'm dripping about 24 gpd in my 265 with large fish. The nitrates went down with NO (manual) water changes and now they stay constant at about 15-20ppm. It was at 60ppm when I installed the system. I dont need an equation to tell me that it works or doesnt work. When I test the water and everything comes out ok, I get the answer.


sweet..and i agree. Proof is in the pudding as they would say.
But the article raises some good points and it is appreciated.
 
I too am running a DIY wet/dry shower tower and run a 1017gph pump at 3 feet of head over 18+" of vented Bio-ballz, foam prefilter, floss and 50 micron felt...I do a 10-20% weekly WC and I have crystal clear 20 ppm Nitrate H20...

Can't understand why the fact that Nitrate can and is gassed off at the filter, is such a slow technology to catch on...the Koi guys have been knowing this for years...
 
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