no idea what happened

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last night i got in late, after a quick look around the tanks i notice a bristlenose plec in one of my 30G not moving. this tank is my bristlenose breeding tank, it's a bit of a mix up of decor as i also use it to grow out young tied java. so occupants were, 5 adult bristlenose, with fry always on the go but this really is a holding tank as i normally move the adults about between all my tanks but i had the 2 males and 3 females in there. also i had my recuse fahaka in there growing out and sort of in quarantine.

in the 3 years this tank has been running there has never been a single issue, 50% water change weekly and a vac out, it has a 1200 LPH internal on a spray bar.

only recent changes has been a new light, some drift wood out of a tank i closed down some more sand added to cater for the fahaka and thats it, all of it was cleaned before i put it in.

anyway last night i found a dead bristlenose, one of the younger females. I put it down to the fahaka who has helped himself to a few of the fry here and there but seemed more interested in frozen prawn than fry. this morning i had an early start so was out before the lights came on. got home this afternoon to find the fahaka dead and then digging around i found 1 male bristlenose (i had him nearly 4yrs) and 2 females dead, all the fry in fact nothing looked alive.

first thing i did is check waters and ammonia was 0, nitrites was a little high at 0.5, there was no foul smells and all the plants look good just no reason for it, filter working fine, heater fine etc. I'm stumped and gutted i got one fish left out of a group and to top it off i lost the fahaka.

i have done a 90% WC and left the last male bristlenose in there as i don't want to risk moving him into another tank if its fish related. only think i can think of is something in the tank killed the bristlenose and then kill the fahaka via ingest.

gutted and stumpt...... and now have a spare 150G that i just bought for it.
 
Anytime you have ammonia or nitrite in the tank i would assume that is the reason. your tank very well could have went though a cycle and you caught the tell end of it.
 
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Wow Shane that's bad news to hear sorry for your loss mate , the cause is a tricky one 0.5 nitrates isn't really enough to wipe out your tank Imo ,try a different tester kit maybe ? That's had me in the past lost a few fish because of incorrect readings
 
Anytime you have ammonia or nitrite in the tank i would assume that is the reason. your tank very well could have went though a cycle and you caught the tell end of it.

i hope this is the case, may be it was the increase in food for the fahaka, its the only thing i can put it down too, but then i eased up on the sinking pellets for the plecs over this time. im just gonna reset it and start.

Sorry for your loss.

cheers man, i think i'm more annoyed that i rescued it to no avail

Wow Shane that's bad news to hear sorry for your loss mate , the cause is a tricky one 0.5 nitrates isn't really enough to wipe out your tank Imo ,try a different tester kit maybe ? That's had me in the past lost a few fish because of incorrect readings

yeh i would be worried about the nitrites but i have a slight reading in all my tanks because of the PH the water is at (read that it can affect it), i was hoping for an ammonia spike at least to justify it. I pick up another test kit and give it a check on another tank with stable readings and compare.

Snap! What a nightmare! Sorry and sad . :(

cheers mate by snap i recon you having a similar issue, hope it all works out your side
 
Could be something viral that doesn't really show symptoms , not really much u can do about it either in that case, they just run their course. I strongly advise against feeding a dead fish to anything, especially one that died of unknown causesfor reasons like this. Sorry, Bud.....this stuff happens all the time.
 
Sorry to hear this happened ,

If your reading Nitrites it's almost certainly a cycle issue that lead to a series of ammonia & nitrite spikes. Your biological media was likly overwhelmed by the increased bioload from the introduction of the puffer.

Catching the ammonia in a previously cycled tank can be tricky , levels of ammonia will spike first then drop as the existing bacteria catch up causing a nitrite spike , then that also dissipates as the filter converts it to nitrate , then you feed again and the series of spikes continue.

Many people miss the spikes all together because they are temporary but you catching a reading of nitrite is a sure sign the cycle was out of balance .
 
thanks all for the advise, i'm pretty bummed out about it as the bristlenose been breeding in there for about 18months and i have now lost them all.

i have now closed the tank down (was part of my planned moves anyway) and will wait till i get my 150g up and running before i work out what im going to do be it replace the fahaka or use it for my SH.

but thanks all i have had spikes before but never so bad they have killed off all the occupants. on the flip side nothing in the tank is going near any others.
 
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