Non contiuous filtration

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King Edward

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Heres the thought. I want to run my tanks off renewable energy. Not because I'm a hippy jumping on the bandwagon, but because i HATE our power company. Their attitude makes me sick, not to mention their profiteering. As soon as the price of oil goes up they wack up prices while posting record profits...they have to increase prices they say, after all the shareholders need a return. And the thing I dont get, and maybe you can explain this to me, is WTF has the cost of oil got to do with a coal powered powerstation?

Anyway, I digress, suffice to say I am 'motivated'. The first step is to minimise the use of electricity. The less you use the easier it is to produce. Ideally I want to get our consumption down to the level where say a child sized hampster wheel would do. Two of our societies biggest problems are childhood obesity and global warming...two birds with one stone! And we have 5 of the little buggers so before the bleeding hearts start banging on about child slavery, the shifts wont be too long! Just think of it as a paper round and round!:ROFL:

Largest sources of power use on my pond/tanks...lights, filtration and heating. Heating is easy as the temp is decent because they are inside and a solar collector can easily make up the difference. Light problem has been removed to a large extent by useing the aquaponics system to the grow plants that improve the water quality away from the pond and under natural light, the fish like it darkish, so i only need to light the tank now when I am actually viewing them. This makes my filter the biggest problem...125watts all day everyday!

Now heres the question, if I reconfigure the aquaponics setup into a flood drain system, I can run the pump 15mins on 15mins off, thus reducing the pumps consumption by half. If I build a wet/dry fed by the return will the bacteria be okay with that cycle? They are okay to be turned off for maintenance, which is often more than 15 mins. and they wont dry out that quickly. What do you guys think?
 
King Edward;1863641; said:
And the thing I dont get, and maybe you can explain this to me, is WTF has the cost of oil got to do with a coal powered powerstation? ?


Hows does the coal get mined and transported to the power station?:popcorn:
 
Mr Pleco;1863700; said:
Hows does the coal get mined and transported to the power station?:popcorn:

On the back of a truck (well round here its a train). So I can accept that it costs them more to transport the coal, but that is a fraction of the cost of coal, so if my bill had gone up by £10 I'd have said fine, no probs. But my bill has gone up 40%. Thats £400 pounds a year! If I went out and hired a private contractor to ship coal to my house it'd be in the region of £100 for 20 tonnes (one lorry load). Thats 80tonnes of coal to my door for JUST the price of the increase...now all I need to do is build a gassifier and I'm away....
 
I'm way ahead of you, and you are gonna love this design. (pics to follow)

I have a system that keeps the bio-filter alive even if I shut the system down for days. I use a large wet sump for the mechanical filtration and auxilliary bio-filtration. I have an off-line wet/dry filter that is supplied by a very small fountain pump. This small pump draws next to nothing and never turns off. It is also what keeps the bacteria alive. It draws at the exit of the wet sump and the water from the wet/dry returns to the front of the wet sump. Therefor there is always an uninterupted supply of oxygenated water for the bacteria colony. The main pump is housed in a lower collection sump and can be turned on and off at will.

An added benefit is I have a drip system so I only have to clean the filter once every 6-12 months. The large wet sump acts as a septic tank and the drip system flushes out the liquified waste. (The waste is held in the wet sump until it is completely broken down to liquified form and then is removed via the drip system.) The remaining inert solids (very few) are removed when the floss bed is changed.
 
Well thats a week now the wet/dry has been running 15mins on 15 mins off and the fish are fine, the water smells sweet...groovy!

Interesting idea thought to use a small pump to keep a trickle of water falling over the media....have a think about that one!
 
I like that your trying to save energy and whatnot but I don't think you thought through your plan completely. You are basically cutting your waterflow in half. Say you were doing 100 gal an hour and that makes 125 watts in a day. Now you are doing 50 gal and hour at 62 watts per day. You are also straining your bacteria colonies by drying and wetting and drying and wetting. If you are content with just 50 gal an hour why not just get a weaker pump. It will use less energy and not strain your bacteria. Really, your just sacraficing the quality of your water for less energy. ff your content with that then go ahead, but just realize that you are making it far more difficult than it has to be. I hope that didn't come off as rude, because that was not my intension. Also, if the power company bugs you that much you should just invest in solar and wind power for your house.
 
Don't forget that he already has succeded in his results. My system has been thriving for over two years.

And the startup costs for solar or wind are still cost prohibitive.
 
Well Im sure his water still "smells sweet" but it doesn't change the fact that he is running on half the filtration he was before. I'm not saying it won't work, I'm just saying that that is not the best way to cut energy down.

your right about the startup cost of alternative power but he said that his prices rose by 40%. I don't know how much that makes total, but I'm sure it's alot. And when you get power from a company it is like your renting and you just pay forever. Although solar and wind is expensive at first, it would probably pay off if your bills are going up by forty percent. Hey, that's just me though.
 
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