Thanks guys. Yes I love the Atro idea also, just have always wanted Stalsbergi. Peru is at least northern part of South America. And from what I understand they like temp in the low 70s also. I know guapote Mel has been successful at keeping them together which is kind of what inspired me. And I already have a group of Pellegrini and 4 Gephyrum. Growing slowly but not as bad as I heard. Had them 6 months and have gone from 1.5” to 3.75”