Now it's my turn...my female marble is hurting !!

[flamenco-t]

I've had this pregnant marble for 2 months, she's been in the QT tank for the entire time (I don't see a point to pull her out and have to chase after the pups)

I've had a tank malfunction that resulted in a flood and my wife went into the hospital so I've been neglecting that tank in the past week.

The tank is overfilter, it can handle A LOT of bio load. The same filters handled 2-3 rays prior without any problem feeding twice a day.

I first noticed this yesterday, the picture below taken yesterday.

I took a small sample of the open sore on her clasper (she also have 1 on her underside) and put it under a scope. It's not bacterial or fungal. It was a open sore.

Her water was cloudy, so I did 2 -50% water changes between 3 hours time, I was trying to get out as much water as I can without putting too much stress on her. I also added salt.

This morning, I found a DOA pup and the tank water is very cloudy with a foul smell to it. I immediately do another WC and I noticed her disk had gotten a little worst. She looks like she was curling this morning.

The DOA pup

I had to go back to the hospital for my wife and I finally just got back and she's still the same but tank water is siginificantly clearer and doesn't smell as foul as it was yesterday

QUESTION # 1: Anyone have any idea that caused the "shredded" disk ? I asked a few friends and they seems to blame it on ammonia burn

QUESTION # 2: Could the "birth" water caused the tank water to foul ? would that caused an ammonia spike ? I do not have any ammonia test kit, but my filtration can handle her bioload. The "foul" have to be way too extreme to cause a spike in ammonia.

I'll try to get a test kit tomorrow, we just got my wife home from hospital, I need to take care the household..

I appreciate all the help..

Stan

 

[ajsmith235]

WOW Stan.... 1st thing: Sorry about your wife man.

2nd sorry about the bad deal you have been through with the ray.

i dont think ammonia burn causes the disc to rot away like that tho... is her underside red or anything?? this is very wierd having and open sore and all...

was ur qt tank the one that malfunctioned? if so how long was the filter turned off? the BB might have died off alil....? how big is the qt tank?? if its not very big then ur water could bcome bad even with your filter being more than enough...

I hope ur female pulls through buddy!

 

[flamenco-t]

WOW Stan.... 1st thing: Sorry about your wife man.

2nd sorry about the bad deal you have been through with the ray.

i dont think ammonia burn causes the disc to rot away like that tho... is her underside red or anything?? this is very wierd having and open sore and all...

was ur qt tank the one that malfunctioned? if so how long was the filter turned off? the BB might have died off alil....? how big is the qt tank?? if its not very big then ur water could bcome bad even with your filter being more than enough...

I hope ur female pulls through buddy!

This wasn't the tank that malfunction. My 575 flooded because my son moved the float switch, 11 hours of dripping 12 gal per hour and it goes to the carpet I've spent the last 4-5 days pulling water, running 3 dehumidifier and 4 blower fan that we used on the dyno.

Her underside is not red, normal white/greyish color.

I am tempted to treat the tank with erthromycin for fungal, but I don't see any fungal or bacterial on the open sore. I used 200X lens on the microscope.

Stan

PS: Wife went in for a simple non invasive day surgery to remove her gall bladder. 2 hours in the operation, she went through complication and they had to cut her stomach open about 12". She's doing fine and on extra strength vicodin for the pain for the next 2-3 weeks..

Thank you

 

[HULON]

This wasn't the tank that malfunction. My 575 flooded because my son moved the float switch, 11 hours of dripping 12 gal per hour and it goes to the carpet I've spent the last 4-5 days pulling water, running 3 dehumidifier and 4 blower fan that we used on the dyno.

Her underside is not red, normal white/greyish color.

I am tempted to treat the tank with erthromycin for fungal, but I don't see any fungal or bacterial on the open sore. I used 200X lens on the microscope.

Stan

PS: Wife went in for a simple non invasive day surgery to remove her gall bladder. 2 hours in the operation, she went through complication and they had to cut her stomach open about 12". She's doing fine and on extra strength vicodin for the pain for the next 2-3 weeks..

Thank you

Stan glad to hear your wifeis ok first and formost ...could not of a bacterial infection the rotting disk and the open sore cause an amonia spike
worsening the rotting ?????Like i say not the Ray expert at all just throwing my perspective out thereThe still birth making it even worse .....

 

[FishDog]

Sounds like your bio bacteria died for some reason. I had a tank crash like that one time because it was still cycling when I medicated with prazi pro. It crashed killing one ray and clouded the water up something horrible. Did anything change in the system that would of caused a filter crash, maybe a lack of water change that caused a pH swing?

 

[vamptrev]

something rotting in the filters?

not rely sure if its not bacterial or fungal....

i would deff do 25% waterchanges twice per day minimum.

 

[flamenco-t]

Just checked on her, she's gone..

For some reason, I am thinking the pup caused her death....I am too tired and dissapopinted to figure out why at this point.

She was healthy, free of parasite, ate about 10 pieces of shrimps per day....

Thanks for the help and encouraging words...

stan

 

[Venom SS]

Damn brother, when it rains it pours huh?

 

[DB junkie]

Sorry for your loss Stan.

I just lost the pup born here 6 weeks ago. Wasn't off food for 48 hours. Went from active as all get out to curled in less then a weekend.

Nothing hurts worse in the pit of your stomach then the high of watching the whole preggo ray thing go on then end so sour. Just gotta try and keep the ol chin up. Sorry again.

 

[lincolngoh]

Looks like the water burned it, killed the bacteria and caused the whole mishap. The new dripped water was probably high PH and hard. Ammonia is more toxic at high PHs.

Having a miscarriage further weakened it. A over filtered tank will turn clear 1-2 hours after a rays birth/mating. Cloudy water means that your filtration is screwed up or insufficient.

But rays can be bought again. I'm glad your wife is fine.