I think it has a lot to do with both, but I feed all of my fish great food and do a ton of water changes and they all have nice heads. Although I do think it has to do with genetics, I'm saying food and water changes has a lot more more of an effect on it. What do you guys think impacts nuchal hump/kok more..? And I'm not talking weird fish, I'm talking mostly amphilophus stuff and other common fish that get nuchal humps.
Nuchal hump/KOK, genetics or food and diet?
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I've read harder or more alkaline water can increase the growth rate and size of humps. Not sure if theres any truth to it, but the water from my tap is soft and acidic and my fish's humps aint that impressive. I've even got 6" 3 year old convicts with no hump at all. I also have some barred citrinellum at around 6" with no sign of any growth yet.
its mainly genetics because if it was just food and waterchanges you'd see a LOT more amphil. with huge humps the fact it some just don't have the huge hump GENE
<<<<<like this guy does
<<<<<like this guy does
I hope I'm not derailing this thread at all, but I don't like a huge hump all that much, they look kind of disgusting to me. I like a small modest hump, is there a safe way to keep the hump at a reasonable size without malnurishing a fish or keeping it in dirty water. Kind of an inverse of the original question.
Camphilophus;1876248; said:
Pretty sure you answered your own question right there. Why do certain genus of cichlids develop more nuchal humps on average? Because it's genetic. If it had to do with food and water changes we'd see a ton of oscars and Jack Dempsesys with nuchal humps. We don't. I'm not saying good food and clean water don't help, they do. But genetics and tank hierarchy by far play the largest part.
Modest_Man;1877676; said:
he answered his own question and you just basically repeated what i said lol its all good
so GOOD GENETICS EQUAL BIG HUMPS
I think you guys are 100% wrong. Back before I knew nothing about fish I had a midas in a 30gallon with 2 jack dempseys and 2 convicts. My midas did not have a nuchal hump back then. Now that I've been taking good care of him, its enormous.
and wtf are you talking about oscars and jack dempseys. You must have misread my post. I said I was speaking of "the common fish that devlop nuchal humps." By genetics I mean the genes/traits passed down from parents, not species.
So if you get a fish and iits parents had little/no nuchal hump and yours develops a nuchal hump is that a trait its parents passed down or is it the way you take care of it..? I think diet / water quality brings out the bigger humps.
and wtf are you talking about oscars and jack dempseys. You must have misread my post. I said I was speaking of "the common fish that devlop nuchal humps." By genetics I mean the genes/traits passed down from parents, not species.
So if you get a fish and iits parents had little/no nuchal hump and yours develops a nuchal hump is that a trait its parents passed down or is it the way you take care of it..? I think diet / water quality brings out the bigger humps.
Not really sure exactly what causes it. Go to the Shedd in Chicago, they have a very large tank with many (30+) midas in it. Pretty much every one of them have large nuchal humps, so it really can't mean it's only a sign of dominance.
Almost wish my haitiensis would have his disappear!
Almost wish my haitiensis would have his disappear!
dominicolas;1877655; said:
I agree. bigger isn't better, not in my opinion anyway. there comes a point when the hump becomes ugly.
Camphilophus;1878102; said:
Don't see how they can be 100% wrong. Why even bothered to ask a question if you're just going to assume everyone's answers are wrong and you basically knew the answer already?
