Just got back home from a trip to a couple of lfs in Ohio, got a call from one saying he had some monster clown loaches two being 10-11" so i told him to hold them and that i would be there first thing friday. So i get up just as he opens and he shows me the fish i look in the tank to see 8 clowns that were 3-4" at the most and pretty skinny and far from the 5-7" ones he said he had and for the two 10-11" ones he had turned out to be more like 7-8". When i said that they must have different sized rulers in ohio he seemed to not like it to much but when your told that he had some huge ones and make a almost 3hr trip one way to get them for some smaller unhealthy looking fish what do you expect. Next time ill be sure to have him send me pics of the next to a ruler.