Heres 2 more unstressed pics of my mystery lugubris. Last time everyone said johanna but it has a thicker build and different coloration than my other johannas. Maybe venezuela? Thanks for all help. Still looking for cincta.
Still say Crenicichla johanna man. You gotta member that there is more than one color variant of johanna. There are some really wild ones out there.... Continue to grow it out....that'll make it easier and easier to ID. Plus it adds to the fun.
might get lucky and keep that top pattern... with 3 you have a tad better chance of a pr.
if you do find some small cinctas under $100 let me know please... Might want to ask mainlycichlids.com about getting them from Oliver at belowwater in canada.