Opinion about breeding and selecting tank

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Lucas Fontenele

Jack Dempsey
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Dec 10, 2012
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Fortaleza, Ceará - Brazil
Hey guys, my recently bought pikes are doing very well, even in the final of a treatment of ichy. ( first time I'm having this problem, tbh it was a bonus from the store)

I'm having trouble with my big girl that is ovigerous and can't find a pair because the other ones are too small (I supose) and I think that I got only one male.

She is developing a really red and round belly, very beautiful by the way.

With this situation she was being aggressive in a 90 gallon tank with just three more Crenicichla of her species, so I decided to move her to a 13 gallon for a while.

the question is how to try to make them pair, and the size of the tank that I should try it?

I'm waiting for the answers! Here goes the pics:

Ps. She is a bit bigger than the fish in the right in the last pic, and the male is in the size of that in the left

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Im trying to breed my crenicichla red pike n red face They in 180 n still not pair up , I read the water have to b the way they like it , a cave for them to breed in
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I have another male not as big , n other aquarium

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: Water quality is usually not critical for the medium-sized, spangled Pikes of the Saxatilis group; they are hardy and can happily live and breed in most dechlorinated tap water. The same goes for the Froghead Pikes formerly known as*Batrachops. The large, small-scaled Pikes of the Lugubris group and the dwarf species need better water quality, since they are usually found in low-pollution, low-bacteria black waters of the Amazon. Regular large, partial water changes and efficient biological filtration should take care of these fish. Poor water quality management leads to "hole-in-the-head" disease in some large Pikes. The dwarves simply die if you don't keep the ammonia/nitrite levels in the water low. None of them require soft, acidic water for day-to-day living, but the blackwater species usually need water with pH and hardness resembling their native habitats - pH of 5 to 6 and extremely soft to successfully breed.



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Im really grate for your help!

You have some nice pike right there! Wish you luck.

about my crenichla, they're from small streams and rivers here, so a think the water quality doesn't matter very much since it's not so acid or not so alcaline. The rivers are mainly from rainwater, and almost all are not perennial, so the species need to be very strong to survive in poor water quality sometimes.

I would be grate too if you give me tips about making they pair, because they're very aggressive, it looks that they are more interested in dominate others than pairing. LoL
 
Even this section of the forum being very stoped and people dont participating much, I feel like sharing this update here.

Finally they spawned, after some fights.

Its hard too see the little ones, but they are hatching already in the flower pot. And Im preparing some artemia nauplius for them.

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Great pics and congratulations. Any idea what the water parameters are from the local streams. I would love to get some info from a local. LOL

Keep up with the updates.
 
I cant really tell the water parameters, because I never checked it.

But in literature I found that the pH is close to neutral. Anyway, Crenicichla menezesi and all other fish from northeast of Brazil are very resistant to harsh water conditions since our streams here are temporary and sometimes it concentrates lots of minerals and organic compounds when they start drying.

They spawned in a lightly alcaline pH around 7.5 (confirmed) and a medium to low hardness if I can guess, since I've recently added rainwater as tapwater.
 
Congratulations Lucas. Very few can say they've spawned any pike.:thumbsup:
 
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