orbignyi and humerosa

[the_deeb]

I've found a lot of conflicting information on these guys. Does anyone know the real max size? Also, what are their growth rates like, in comparison to a motoro for example?

 

[Miles]

It's hard to find concrete information on them because they are so often mis-identified and similiar in variations..

I really want to start a thread/information thread about these species to shed some light on the subject..