Ornate with white spot :(

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BigBossPants

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I just noticed last night that Belial has what looks like white spot! Grrrrrrrrrrr
The JD in the tank has no signs of it but I saw him scratching on the rocks a few days ago...
Is 'White Spot Cure' ok to use for them?
Any safer/better ones people recommend?
I'm in NZ so some treatments may not be available here
 
High temperature is an effective treatment.

Ich appears not to be able to survive temperatures above 86F. By raising temps to above 86F one can kill all the parasites; generally, 4-5 days after the temps have been raised above 86F you will see a reduction in white spots on your fish. It is best to continue temps above 86F for at least 2 weeks to ensure all the parasites have been killed. Do not raise temperatures too quickly. 1 to 1 ? degrees F every 12 hours is best, although if you keep your temps very low you may need to shorten that to 1 degree F every 6 hours. Raising temps too quickly can stress fish. Keep in mind, Ich multiplies more quickly at higher temps below 86F; it is necessary to find a balance between raising temps slowly enough not to stress the fish and quickly enough to keep the fish from becoming too infested with the parasite. Also, be sure all the fish/invertebrates in the tank can handle temps that high; if you?re not sure, do some research and ask.
**High temps reduces the amount of oxygen in the water. Increasing surface agitation, either by lowering water levels if one has a hang on back filters so the water falls further, or adding addition aeration is recommended.

Salt is another effective treatment.

By raising salt levels to 2-3 ppm or 1.002-1.003 specific gravity above what one normally keeps the tank at can destroy the Ich parasites. It has a strong effect on osmosis, and dehydrates the parasite to the point the parasite can no longer function and dies. Again, raising levels slowly but not too slowly is key here; raising salt 1 ppm per day is recommended. Generally 7.6 grams of salt per gallon is equal to 2 ppm or 1.002-1.003 specific gravity . However, it?s the chloride ions which are necessary for the treatment, and different salts have different levels of chloride. It?s best to purchase a hydrometer which measures low levels of salt to ensure proper dosage.
2 weeks at those levels sure eradicate all the parasites. Again, be sure all the fish in your tank can deal with those levels of salt. On that note, most scaleless fish CAN handle these levels of salt. Plecos and loaches especially do fine despite internet rumors to the contrary. It has been noted some tetras and corys do not do well with salt, however.
Once treatment is finished, regular water changes will remove the salt and return the tank to its usual levels.
** It is recommended to use pure salts such as aquarium, kosher or rock salt, NOT regular table salt. There are some concerns the chemicals added to table salt (such as iodine, and iron cyanides which are sometimes added as an anti-caking chemical) can be injurious to fish. Salt is also not a recommended treatment for planted tanks.

Water changes during treatment.

A mentioned in the medication section, water changes can reduce levels of meds and they may need to be adjusted accordingly. The same goes for the salt treatment as one wants to keep levels the same. Obviously, it is not an issue for the high temperature treatment. However, water changes are NOT necessarily a bad thing; in fact, by doing water changes and gravel vacs, you are removing some of the theronts swimming in the water and the tomonts encysted in the substrate and reducing the overall levels of parasites in your system.
 
Water changes, every day.

Raise temp to about 88 degrees, lower water level by about an inch to increase aeration in the water (Assuming you use a HOB filter).
 
I ended up using 'White Spot Cure' at just over 1/2 dose, and raised the temp to about 28-30*C. Spots seem to have cleared up but the JD is still scratching his head against the substrate?!
Am going to do a w/c and put activated carbon in the filter in the next few days to remove the treatment and monitor him :)
Thanks for all the feedback!
 
What is your normal water change schedule? Nitrogenous waste in the water lowers the immune system of fish. Start doing more water changes! Your bichirs ganoid scales should provide plenty of protection from parasites as it is, now it is up to you to keep up with tank maintenance. Let us know how it goes!
 
Yeah that's what I thought! I was quite confused when I saw the spots...
I had been doing weekly changes of about 1/3 of the tank, replacing with warm dechlorinated water. While the treatment was in there I didn't change the water (for maybe 2 weeks) but added another filter to try and combat this, as well as to increase water movement and oxygenation.
They're having a water change today :)
 
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