outdoor "pond"

[dmopar74]

posted this in the outdoor pond section but its not really a "pond" so here i am.

i will be setting up a pond, it is a pallet bin 48x44x25(19" water depth) with two 1.5" overflows merging to a single 2" drain that will be going to a 80g sump, return is 1" splitting to four 1/2" returns. i would like to keep some koi, although i know this will not be large enough for life by far, more of a growout, perhaps 3 koi starting at a small 3-6" size?

so what flow rate should i be shooting for?

should i put a heater in for the winter time?

for the sump i was thinking drain into a filter sock, and having fully submerged bio media for maximum water volume(sump completely full of water and bio).

any other things i need to know, or is it basically the same as indoor tropical aquaria, just colder?

thank you for your time, never done a pond before!

 

[AttackFish]

I dont know about flow rate, but you dont need a heater for winter, even in WA.

Just have a fountain, the rest of the pond could freeze over, but the fountain will make a hole in the ice for gas exchange.

Although, you could also ad a pond heater for extra reassurance.

 

[midnight]

thats cool
where did you find it?
cost?
have you filled it with water yet?


small koi will be ok for a year or so in it
flow rate 3-5 times the tank i hear
i do 2-3 times the water amount tho

heater wont do much in winter,and koi can be in cold i think
and like attack said,but the returns,should keep it from icing over
right?lol i dont know cold,just what ive read here.

 

[AttackFish]

Koi can be kept cold.

A friend of mine has a large 700 gallon koi pond.


Remember the power outages during the storm dmopar? Temps were around 30F and colder at night here, they only lost one Koi....

 

[dmopar74]

thats cool
where did you find it?
cost?
have you filled it with water yet?


small koi will be ok for a year or so in it
flow rate 3-5 times the tank i hear
i do 2-3 times the water amount tho

heater wont do much in winter,and koi can be in cold i think
and like attack said,but the returns,should keep it from icing over
right?lol i dont know cold,just what ive read here.

bought it off another member fully plumbed. its currently empty but i have filled it, its great to hold big fish in during tank swaps. thr returns are above the water level, just worried bout the overflows icing up, just need enough heat to keep water above freezing.

 

[dmopar74]

Koi can be kept cold.

A friend of mine has a large 700 gallon koi pond.


Remember the power outages during the storm dmopar? Temps were around 30F and colder at night here, they only lost one Koi....

i got a generator, too many fish to lose to a power outage

 

[AttackFish]

i got a generator, too many fish to lose to a power outage

Lucky you.

I didnt have time to get a generator and lost 35 fish.
Only fish that survived were three feeder whiteclouds and my two big plecs.
Was a Sad day.
Had ice in the top of my tanks.

Took my plecs to my sisters house along with my turtle as they got power two days after the outage.

You can bet I wont let that happen again...


Anyways, GL with your pond bro.

 

[groovitudedude]

Oh, boy. Just start accepting RTCs as soon as you get it filled. There's enough people who need to get rid of their tank busters, but if you wanna start fresh, go for it.