Outlaws Eating Caviar - Suggestions Please!

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snoopy65

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I put this thread over in the breeding forum yesterday morning and have had no response so I figured maybe you guys could help.

My convicts evidently are not normal. They do not want children! They spawn constantly, but consume them at the wiggler stage every time. Normally most say that is a good thing, but my female is a marble con so I would like to get a spawn from them to breed her back to one of her sons. Then I can get some more that are marbled and can pass them on to you guys as well as my LFS who says if I breed marble ones they will buy them.

They are in a 35 gal tank with a African Knife (he is a stunted 5" knife that came with one of my large tanks). When the cons spawn, he stays well out of their way and is quite adept at dodging the male. Anyway, I left him in there thinking they needed someone to defend the eggs from. They still eat them. They wait until they all are bouncing and then they are gone. No, they are not moving them. I have watched. She guards them and fans them well right until the last one starts vibrating, then she swims over to the male and they both go back and start munching.

I know I need to move the eggs but am not sure when to do this. I also am not sure exactly what I need to do for the eggs once I do. Suggestions please.

By the way I have had her since last March (3") and him since June (3 1/2"). They started spawning 8 days after I put them together and still no free swimmers.
 
all i know is that if you remove teh eggs you need to have an airstone by them, simulating the tail fanning, not sure about anything else, not experienced enough in breeding here, hopefully others will know
 
The technique that has worked for me is to remove the eggs as soon as she is done laying them and he has fertilized them. Immediatly place them in a 5 or 10 gallon tank with no sudstrate and enough water to cover the eggs by about an inch. Add methelyn blue and an air stone. make sure to keep the airstone close enough to the eggs that it will keep a constant flow of water over them without the bubbles actually touching them. Also do not feed your fry until they are freeswimming. The best thing I've found for feeding fri is Hikari Baby Bites...... or was it First Bites? One or the other.
 
toddhgr;3737328; said:
The technique that has worked for me is to remove the eggs as soon as she is done laying them and he has fertilized them. Immediatly place them in a 5 or 10 gallon tank with no sudstrate and enough water to cover the eggs by about an inch. Add methelyn blue and an air stone. make sure to keep the airstone close enough to the eggs that it will keep a constant flow of water over them without the bubbles actually touching them. Also do not feed your fry until they are freeswimming. The best thing I've found for feeding fri is Hikari Baby Bites...... or was it First Bites? One or the other.

spot on.. but one thing i will add is : when you set up the tank to tranfer the eggs into.. use water from the main tank ( the tank that the eggs were layed in )..
This way there is as little as possible stress on the eggs..
 
Well, after 9 months of eating their spawns, I finally have free swimming fry from my Convict pair. Now, hopefully, they don't eat them. My marble female was being very protective of her cave until this morning. She then came out with her brood. I am sooooo excited. They are all too small to be able to tell if any of the fry are marble, but time will tell.

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You may want to move the parents with their history of eating the fry.Then again they may get it right this time.
 
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