You're also comparing creatures from different environments, and domesticated dogs are a genetic creation from humans. Fish for the most part are the real deal. Humans tend to call anything they can't control less intelligentl...domesticated animals were made for a reason, either food, protection, or companionship.
Killer whales, whales, elephants, dolphins have structurally equal/superior brain structure to humans...now what? You can toss in most primates too...these arguments were made decades ago by scientists who called everything 'instinct' they didn't understand. Compare the nature shows out now with old clips from say the 70s and you'll see a world of difference. Its a conceit of humans that anything resembling our structure is 'best'', intelligent or superior....but at the end of the day we're important only to our species. We dress it up with culture and tech...dominant yes, but we have hands! Not even a pimple on the universes ass.
Hell, octopus can play chess. And the oceans are still 70 percent unexplored with new species being discovered. Scientists used to swear the earth was flat, and that the sun rotated around the earth. If the dinosaurs weren't decimated millions of years ago I wonder if reptiles would be the dominant specie now instead of humans.
What all this has to do with overstocking NW cichlids? Hell if I know.
whales, dolphins , killer whales all belong to class mammals , and not superclass Pisces ( class chondrichthyes -mainly saltwater and class osteichtyes - mainly freshwater) so yes they are more comparable to humans than if you compare a pitbull (mammal) with a dovii ( pisces) thus makes no sense compairing them to the fish we keep in the aquarium. primates and elephants also belong to mammals .
if you go through the thread what I'm trying to convey is that you can train an animal but cannot train a fish to be a certain way .
if an octopus can play chess does this prove that they are more advanced than humans ? had that been the case they would be keeping humans as pets today.
I dont know of any such species that has a more complex pattern of thinking than a human. there may be animals with a more comples or larger brain structure but it does not mean that theier way of thinking is more complex. we can smile even tho we feel like crying . we smile at people even tho they are annoying and you want to wack them on the face, can an elephant , octopus, killer whale do that?
people who said the earth was flat were more of the greek-roman astrologers , there is nothing scientific in mere assumptions. makes no sense calling such people scientists
. Its a conceit of humans that anything resembling our structure is 'best'', intelligent or superior....but at the end of the day we're important only to our species
i may not know much but I dont think that humans are important only to humans. had humans not been important to other species , many species that we still see sround would not be here. if you are considering the ecological part of food shelter etc, then the lion is also not important .
btw what do you mean by " resembling our structure " ??
And the oceans are still 70 percent unexplored with new species being discovered. Scientists used to swear the earth was flat, and that the sun rotated around the earth. If the dinosaurs weren't decimated millions of years ago I wonder if reptiles would be the dominant specie now instead of humans.
so what ? youre hoping that out of the 70% unexplored oceans some xyz species would emerge that would be more superior than humans? and had dinosaurs not been extint we would not have been here on the MFK site . btw even then would humans have a more complex brain if you see evolution . As of now humans are more complex than anything else. and it seems impossible that anything superior would emerge before a mass extinction.
What all this has to do with overstocking NW cichlids? Hell if I know
go through the whole thread you'll get your answer.
You're also comparing creatures from different environments
suggest you better go through the full thread . I am telling people not to compare
Not being rude but your argument dint make sense to me , looks like you wrote it for fun .
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Deadeye
