p.endi endi or p.endi congonic?

[chnagain]

http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~endricheri-japan/gokudeni.html
TODAY, i found a YELLOW & GREEND p.endi endi..in the japan website, that bichir at no.3 pictures
PIC IS this..

but i think,that 's a p.ENDI CONGONIC..
++because that bichir has...
1.longer nose tube
2.not diversification stripe .
3.hight dorsal fin
++++
i am right? or that is a different wild body from unkonwn country?

3 years ago, i collection the other picture..

it's a p.endi congonic?


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thanks for ur help.

 

[cenecker]

neither...its either p. lapradai, p. bichir, or p. ansorgii (I can never tell the diff without looking them up). I'm sure one of the "real" experts will give you an exact ID

 

[Jakob]

Im maybe no experet but that is an ansorgii, you lucky guy (i want an ansorgii so bad)

 

[Infblue]

the first one, i believe it's a P. endli endli, or a variant (or hybrid? just random guess ). It's not P. endli congicus. it has a P. endli endli head.

i don't believe length of the nostril (nose) tube, or height of the dorsal fins are meaningful for ID. I know congicus (espeically small congicus) usually has higher dorsal fins than P. endli endli, but i don't think higher dorsal fins always means congicus.

The second one is P. endli congicus.

EDIT: they are not ansorgii or bichir bichir.

 

[chnagain]

the first one, i believe it's a P. endli endli, or a variant (or hybrid? just random guess ). It's not P. endli congicus. it has a P. endli endli head.

i don't believe length of the nostril (nose) tube, or height of the dorsal fins are meaningful for ID. I know congicus (espeically small congicus) usually has higher dorsal fins than P. endli endli, but i don't think higher dorsal fins always means congicus.

The second one is P. endli congicus.

EDIT: they are not ansorgii or bichir bichir.

thank u..

are u remember,i posted some "problem" p.endi cong pic in aquaticpredators.com..u say that is p. endi congics...
that bich has p.endi endi 's head...but either character like p.endi congics.


also, i think maybe we can't cognizance up bichir pictures only by " head character".

(1)in wild..p.endi endi 's head have so many variant..
from below url,we can see a very bizarrerie head at NO.3 pictures endi
http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~endricheri-japan/gokojyou_w_gundan.html

(2) i never seen the longer nose tube at "not little P.ENDI endi bichir"

(3) i think, we affirm a bichir ID usually from some characteristic..
at science data,,i never seem "head figure" delineate, also never seem "dorsal fin" and "nose tube's length" delineate..

so i disbelieve this bichir ID ...

 

[beblondie]

Nare length is not used in scientific descriptions neither is cadual fin measurement nor dorsal fin height as they can vary between individuals of the same species this variaton can be from damage due to fighting or various injuries-Anne

 

[Infblue]

thank u..

are u remember,i posted some "problem" p.endi cong pic in aquaticpredators.com..u say that is p. endi congics...
that bich has p.endi endi 's head...but either character like p.endi congics.


also, i think maybe we can't cognizance up bichir pictures only by " head character".

(1)in wild..p.endi endi 's head have so many variant..
from below url,we can see a very bizarrerie head at NO.3 pictures endi
http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~endricheri-japan/gokojyou_w_gundan.html

(2) i never seen the longer nose tube at "not little P.ENDI endi bichir"

(3) i think, we affirm a bichir ID usually from some characteristic..
at science data,,i never seem "head figure" delineate, also never seem "dorsal fin" and "nose tube's length" delineate..

so i disbelieve this bichir ID ...

yeah i remember the 'problem' one. it's a unique bichir. it would help to know if it's captive bred or wild caught.

About NO.3 endli in your url, is it the one with the very flat head? i know some Guinea P. endli endli has very flat head.

I agree we can't just look at the head, but the first bichir in your post doesn't have P. endli congicus characteristics. Some P. endli endli can have thinner stripes like this. i agree congicus tends to have taller dorsal fins, but this doesn't mean P. endli endli must have short dorsal fins, so it's not too useful for ID. And the length of the nose tube is not useful for ID.

It is a unique bichir. I believe it's either a P. endli endli variant, or one of those bizarre bichir imported from Guinea that looks like both P. endli endli and Guinea lapradei.


EDIT: Found this on the site. Confirm it was imported from Guinea, so it cannot be P. endli congicus. And it is one of those bizarre looking bichir. check the link. same bichir in all pics.
http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~endricheri-japan/my_endli_ginia_d_special.html

 

[chnagain]

Nare length is not used in scientific descriptions neither is cadual fin measurement nor dorsal fin height as they can vary between individuals of the same species this variaton can be from damage due to fighting or various injuries-Anne

thank u for u help!

i come from china, i don't know what's "injuries-Anne" mean?