Pairing up grammodes

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Arthur

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Looking for experienced advice on pairing up some grammodes.

I've been raising a male for what is coming up on two years, and I'm on female number two, which he doesn't seem too fond of. He is probably around 6-7" and my current female is around 4". They share a divided 75g with love doors for the female. Part of me is tempted to try and get a few more females while he is still young to give him options, but I have limited tank space at the moment. To which I think I would end up with females killing themselves for territory if I tried to cram them all in the 75.

I guess I'm just looking to hear others experiences with pairing these fish, and if maybe I'm stuck with a lone mean stud.

I raised a "pair" of festae for 3-4 years or so under the same sort of conditions, and would rather not raise another pair that is set on killing each other.
 
hey. Try mixing them up with other cichlids and then re-introduce them. Then separate them and do it on and off with other different tank mates around. If you keep at it you gonna get it one day.

Make sure you breed at proper temp not too hot because these guys are vicious and war anytime anywhere. In a bag in a bucket it dont matter
 
I usually try to get a male and 5 or more females, especially with something as volatile as grammodes.
I started with 6 and the male whittled them down to 3.
And even after they spawned 3 times, he then killed her.
As stated above, having other cichlids as targets will help to cement the pair bond, but in my case the male also would kill any other cichlid introduced to the tank.
 
I made the mistake of only getting 2 females and 1 male.
The male promptly killed the females the same night.
Like others have said, you may want to make a divider with a escape route.
 
Arthur said:
Looking for experienced advice on pairing up some grammodes.

I've been raising a male for what is coming up on two years, and I'm on female number two, which he doesn't seem too fond of. He is probably around 6-7" and my current female is around 4". They share a divided 75g with love doors for the female. Part of me is tempted to try and get a few more females while he is still young to give him options, but I have limited tank space at the moment. To which I think I would end up with females killing themselves for territory if I tried to cram them all in the 75.

I guess I'm just looking to hear others experiences with pairing these fish, and if maybe I'm stuck with a lone mean stud.

I raised a "pair" of festae for 3-4 years or so under the same sort of conditions, and would rather not raise another pair that is set on killing each other.
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I sold some to graveldigger a couple months ago his breed couple weeks ago may want to shoot him a pm.
 
Some guys just don't wanna be tied down.
 
duanes said:
I usually try to get a male and 5 or more females, especially with something as volatile as grammodes.
I started with 6 and the male whittled them down to 3.
And even after they spawned 3 times, he then killed her.
As stated above, having other cichlids as targets will help to cement the pair bond, but in my case the male also would kill any other cichlid introduced to the tank.
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Thanks, good to know. I'm not sure that I really want to buy more females if they're likely to get killed. I have had the same fear of my male killing any other fish I put into his tank. Maybe I need to hold off until I can put them in a larger tank.

dogofwar said:
Keep them divided...they'll spawn through the divider. I've never had good luck getting grammodes to live together after the males hit about 5"...

Matt
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I have never had good luck with fish trying to spawn through the divider. I tend to overfilter most of my tanks, would you think less water flow would be better for this. I'm curious if you have been successful with fish breeding through a divider and how the tank was setup.


I appreciate everyone's help and opinions so far
 
Yes - bred fish through dividers many times.

I filter most of my tanks with an air-driven box and sponge filter. One of the keys to success is to put a flowerpot and/or spawning rock near the divider (with the opening of the flowerpot facing the male).

Matt

Arthur said:
Thanks, good to know. I'm not sure that I really want to buy more females if they're likely to get killed. I have had the same fear of my male killing any other fish I put into his tank. Maybe I need to hold off until I can put them in a larger tank.


I have never had good luck with fish trying to spawn through the divider. I tend to overfilter most of my tanks, would you think less water flow would be better for this. I'm curious if you have been successful with fish breeding through a divider and how the tank was setup.


I appreciate everyone's help and opinions so far
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