Pairs from same source. ...Breeding issues with siblings?

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Johnnylightning

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How many people buy male and female from same pet shop to breed. In breeding how big of an issue is it if you know your fish came from same litter? I have two pair of Jags and had someone under sale me to find out their fish fry are having problems and I believe its do to inbreeding. My source says he won't buy from this person again but the fry didn't look normal. I will try to get pics but the fish look weird.

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I always try to get fish from different batches. Especially cichlids like convicts that have already been ridiculously inbred.
 
Well I don't know line breeding isn't necessarily bad infact it preserves some of the better traits. However, having said that because the breeding pair was bought from a chain petshop and not knowing it's lineage well thats a different case. Heavy linebreeding or better known as inbreeding will result in deformity however, it's less likely to happen if it's not heavily inbred.
 
hi im new here but with the easy to breed fish i have to bring in new males every third generation or so or i get some pretty bad deformity but line breeding is good as long as it is done with a sense of responsibility and respect for the fish
 
line breeding is good as long as it is done with a sense of responsibility and respect for the fish

Hi, welcome to the forum. Sorry to say though, but what you just said there makes the least bit of sense. >.o

On topic tho, crossing two cichlids from the same batch is like having a brother and sister er, make a child. Whatever problems is associated with humans producing offsprings with their own sibling can be seen with sibling cichlids breeding.

The fact is it's all up to chance. Breeding siblings doesn't always mean that the fries will be deformed, but it doesn't always mean that the fries will inherit good traits either. If the siblings happen to have bad genes in them, that can quickly be propagated, and vice versa. It doesn't have anything to do with 'breeding responsibility' or whatever. It's all up to luck. Even if one chooses what seem to be the best of the batch and breed them, one can get badly deformed offsprings anyways.

That said, breeding two cichlids from different lines has on average a lower chance of producing deformed offsprings, just because of the variability in genetic materials.

However, again, it's all up to chance, and that's what one has to keep in mind when breeding... well, anything really. One can do line breeding and never see a deformity for generations, even if they didn't even try to choose the original parents at all, or one could have chosen very carefully - aimed for the best looking, the healthiest parents, and the offsprings could be as deformed as anything.

The only exception really is if you happen to find a pair with really good 'genetics', and by that I mean they carry little to no unwanted genes, then breeding them would continue to accentuate the good traits, but even then it won't last forever.
 
line breeding as i have all ways know it breeding two fish with traits you want then taking there offspring that show the most of the traits you want and breeding the back to there sire or damn to incress those traits if i am incorrect in this definition im sorry please correct me
 
line breeding as i have all ways know it breeding two fish with traits you want then taking there offspring that show the most of the traits you want and breeding the back to there sire or damn to incress those traits if i am incorrect in this definition im sorry please correct me

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