shes around the 7 inch mark. Shes never laid eggs for me but I haven't had a male small spot either. I finally ordered one and had him shipped hoping maybe she could have a boyfriend someday. When I received him he was very ill. He is a good size ( 3 inches ) but he ended up with ich and then a secondary infection which I almost lost him. Long story short I saved him but his one eye is not good anymore ( blind ) regardless he is a nice fish but he will have to be isolated for quite some time before I will introduce him to " kiwi " . " kiwi " is my favorite fish . she has quite the personality . she bites the glass when she wants nightcrawlers . Plays dead when I stick my hand in the tank and stands her ground when another fish is in her face. Best fish by far for personality. I really hope this male grows eventually into a nice small spot. The problem with these small spots ive found is they are really sensitive when they are older when it comes to changes ( moving them ) I lost my large spot male the last move I made ( only three blocks .... ) he was around 12 " .