Hey, what do you guys know about how to get a hold of a juv. payara or legality issues in california. I've always wanted to get a hold of one.
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in maryland where i live they are expensive like 100 bucks a pop for 2-3"....i dont kno if they are expensive or not but i believe aquascapeonline.com has them
kentobizmol said:
have you ever owned one or is this just hearsay.
they do get big in the wild and like atf's will need a large tank with lots of filtration and good current.
i am sure others who have owned or still own one will fill you in on the rest.
dixon
The Rainbow Pet Store almost always has them. They are located in the San Fernando Valley on Woodman and Nordhoff.
Payara is the Hydrolycus Scomberoides, also know as "Vampire Tetra" or Sabertooth Characin. The other, Piraya, si Pygocentrus Piraya, or orange belly, or yellow belly. This should lessen the confusion.
Pirayas, just like any in the piranha family is restricted in California. Permits could be obtained from Fish and Wildlife, and might even be able to get a permit from California Dept. of Fish and Game.
Now, payaras are not restricted, but if DFG or the scientists of F&W discovers how voracious this fish is, might even make it so. But I am not sure how it can survive in the waters of California. Too cold.
Pirayas, just like any in the piranha family is restricted in California. Permits could be obtained from Fish and Wildlife, and might even be able to get a permit from California Dept. of Fish and Game.
Now, payaras are not restricted, but if DFG or the scientists of F&W discovers how voracious this fish is, might even make it so. But I am not sure how it can survive in the waters of California. Too cold.
Yes, it's good to clarify. I've seen too many payara/piraya confusion threads. It's almost like the old "Who's on first?" routine.Vince said:
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) does not regulate piranha in California or in any other state. Regulation of piranha differs from state to state. In California, piranha are solely regulated by the California Dept. of Fish and Game (CDFG) pursuant to the Fish and Game Code and Fish and Game Commission regulations. A permit is required from the CDFG to possess piranha in California, although such permits are typically only issued to public aquariums or educational institutions.
Payara (Hydrolycus spp.) are neither federally regulated by USFWS nor state regulated by CDFG. However, they are illegal in some other states, such as Texas, for example.
kentobizmol said:
That's ridiculous - who told you that? They may be a strict piscivore but they don't need piranhas.
The guy from Taiwan who recently posted the biggest payara most of us have seen in captivity, 18 inches, feeds his loaches. Pond loaches he says. Not piranhas.
I also know someone around here with a payara and his is doing fine on a variety of fish, cichlids, mollies, guppies, tinfoil barbs etc.