don't want to but its not working too much compatition with the rays for there up for sale or trade there all 7 to 8" theres a kelberi, pinima, and wild peruivan mono all eating basicly anything i throw in there 225 ea for the kel and pin and 40 for the mono if you buy both the kel and the pin the mono is free as for trades looking for more rays no shipping sorry heres a link to some pics http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305580
