Pear ray pups lost eye. who is the culprit?

[tan]

I have a pair of pearl ray pups. Recently I just realize the female pup(about 7") has lost both eyes, the male pup (about 6") has lost one eye. They eat and behave normally. That is why I did not find out until yesterday. Tanks mate are three silver dollar (5" to 6"), two red severum (about 7"), one 9" indo datnoid, one 3" indo datnoid, and the pearl parents (15" male and 18" female). Who do you think is the culprit that causes the blindness in the pups. Any one has the same problem with any tank mate that I mention above. I try to find out which one it is, in order to remove it from the tank. I did have the 9" uaru which picks on the ray before, which I already remove from the tank.
Any suggestion / discussion is welcome....

 

[johno27]

Poor little guys

If I had to cast a vote it would be for the dats followed closely by the severums.

 

[aquaman45]

Parents would be most likely.
Is there any other marks on the bodies of these pups, if not could be the Uaru.

 

[tan]

I have removed the Uaru long time ago. I still see the red color (like blood) underneath the damage eye of the male pup. So most likely it is recently happened. The male pup is very aggressive during feeding, and even swims underneath the parent to steal food from them. Both pups have the outer disc chew up a little, but I thought that is normal since I have a few rays in the tank especially with the large one. It could be the parents or the dat, but I probably remove the large indo dat first and see how it goes. Of course it is just the shot in the dark but somehow I do not have good feeling about the dat....

 

[scott s]

Any pics? Are the eyes bloody on both rays? Can you put in a divider to seperate them from the rest?

 

[DIDYSIS]

My bet would be the rays. Sounds like they are a bit aggressive. My new Leo was going a little crazy till.he finally settled in. Stabbed my female motoro and broke his stinger off. And was swinging his tail around like crazy hitting the other large males. He caused a little damage but also at the same time he damaged his tail or it got bit. Not sure. Sad for some great pups.

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[crashwl21]

parents

 

[tan]

I think I will move the parents and the large indo dat to the indoor pond. Thanks a lot...

 

[yargnits]

if its other rays i would expect a fair amount of damage around the eyes rather than just a missing eye. i would guess its one of the others possibly even the silver dollars !

some pics will help though