You raise spotteds! I would love to get a pair of those someday. You're right, they aren't very common. I use to go out looking for them and [SIZE=-1]Glyptemys muhlenbergii[/SIZE] in the spring time and I only came across Clemys guttata one time. I also believe they are very secretive for a turtle. These are great turtles, too bad not that many people breed them. I've been looking for them recently online and boy are they on the pricey side!