Pike cichlid vs Jaguar cichlid vs maybe Oscar?

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
C

chriswf

Feeder Fish
MFK Member
Oct 14, 2012
47
0
0
Texas
I currently own Doviis... Thinking about trading them in.
The main problem I'm having with breeding, is compatibility with my female. She outgrew my males through a LONG time of bullying them out of food. She was just really mean.
Now that she's paired with a male, she still holds a great deal of dominance. She always has more behavior or actions than any fish I've seen. Shacking her body or head, slapping or fanning the male in the face with her tail, snapping her jaws, and she digs ALL day long.

But when it comes to breeding, she won't stop bullying the male away. She'll run up and bite his face - Not hard, like a quick warning nibble.
6 inches is the closest she lets him get. He can stay, right at 6 inches away (which isn't very far)... But if he hovers over the eggs, she starts biting him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haH0rlVoerU
A video of my doviis in a 200g I got.
Edit: Actually in the video towards the end you see her kind of nibble him and push him away.

She won't let him fertilize them. The eggs all eventually turn white.
It's been a few years of doing this with them... I'm giving up.


The cichlids I'm looking at are:
Jaguars - they're similar to my doviis, but don't have big red teeth :(
Pike cichlids - look like snakehead fish SORT OF (my favorite freshwater fish ever), so I might get them.
Or maybe some type of solid chocolate/black oscar... Or maybe Tiger oscars again (had some a few years ago).

And I do mean maybe when it comes to Oscars - I hear breeding them can be very very difficult.

And 60% of fun from me keeping monster fish, is the breeding of them.
The other 40% is feeding them dubia roaches and marbled crayfish :D



Any advice or experiences?
 
Jags are always great and I've had no trouble getting them to pair up and breed. Oscars can be a real PITA when it comes to getting a mated pair. I owned a pike cichlid about 15 years ago and loved that fish but never got to breed them. Id say go for jags.


Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
 
MTBjake said:
Jags are always great and I've had no trouble getting them to pair up and breed. Oscars can be a real PITA when it comes to getting a mated pair. I owned a pike cichlid about 15 years ago and loved that fish but never got to breed them. Id say go for jags.
Click to expand...

Good info. I may like jags more. My doviis tempers are VERY mild. People say jags are territorial, but I also heard doviis were (not mine)

I just like oscars coloring is all. But compared to other cichlids theyre kinda wimpy. I got rid of my oscars before because my convicts HALF their size were beating them up.

I would also try peacock bass but people tell me 500gallons is more ideal for peacocks. And my largest tank is a 250 right now.

Well so far its between pikes and jags.
 
I currently own a dovii my second one. They're great so much color and personality. Had a bunch of Oscars cool to grow out but once adults kinda wimpy like you said, the guapotes are were I'm leaning towards right now. The pikes are cool but I've had problems getting mine pellet trained. Theres also grammode the mini dovii

Sent from my HTC VLE_U using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
 
You know... i havent tried the egg crate divider...used it to serate breeding convicts from a massive school of dumb convits in my old convict tank.

I just watched a youtube video where this guy had an abusive male... and he used it to keep the male from the female. I need it to keep my female away from the male. Can the male fertilize THROUGH the egg crate? I have pieces of slate but right now they lay eggs on a squidward hut.

Are there any guides here on dividers fpr breeding?
 
chriswf said:
You know... i havent tried the egg crate divider...used it to serate breeding convicts from a massive school of dumb convits in my old convict tank.

I just watched a youtube video where this guy had an abusive male... and he used it to keep the male from the female. I need it to keep my female away from the male. Can the male fertilize THROUGH the egg crate? I have pieces of slate but right now they lay eggs on a squidward hut.

Are there any guides here on dividers fpr breeding?
Click to expand...

Yes they can fertilize the eggs through the divider, provided the female laid the eggs close enough. Just go to lowes or Home Depot and pick up some "eggcrate" in the lighting section. I think they're called light diffusion panels or something. Then just clip it to fit your tank. Good luck!


Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
 
Yeah I already had my egg crate left over from my other tanks.
And I already put it in, and put slate against the side of it at the bottom, as well as a squidward hut she likes to put eggs on...

So hopefully, she'll put them close enough to the egg crate thing.
We'll see how it goes!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
MonsterFishKeepers.com
Top Bottom