Pike ID?

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chiefmojo

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Can anyone tell me what these are? They are advertised as Marmorata from Rio Paraconi..

They don't look like any "marmorata" I've ever kept but maybe I'm missing something.

Kinda look more like Johanna to me but just curious if any of the experts on here have seen this before and what they truly are?

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As juveniles, it’s harder to tell since many look the same. Lugubris family goes through 3 pattern changes with the last pattern being the adult stages. These fish look in between juvenile and sub adult. Some variant of Juvenile marms have a thick black line in the middle and golden herringbone pattern, so you can’t rule out these are not marms.

You’ll have to research what lugubris type pikes exist in that river system to narrow it down. There could be a few in or nearby
 
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These are 6" now in the picture. Tried researching that river but couldn't find any info on what pike are found there. Are you familiar with this river and what pike come out of it?
 
These are 6" now in the picture. Tried researching that river but couldn't find any info on what pike are found there. Are you familiar with this river and what pike come out of it?

sorry I am not familiar with that river. Aqualog 1 does show juvenile marms like in the picture but they still have the head spotting
 
Yes I saw the same pic you are referring to when I checked my Aqualog, and all my previous marms had the head spotting and different markings on thier tail. I may take a chance and pick up a couple. Never know what they may turn out to be.

Thanks for the input
 
Yes I saw the same pic you are referring to when I checked my Aqualog, and all my previous marms had the head spotting and different markings on thier tail. I may take a chance and pick up a couple. Never know what they may turn out to be.

Thanks for the input

Something I just remembered….ask for a better closeup picture of the face, one characteristic seen in johanna is the nose hole touching the upper lip line. Other lugubris has the nose hole 0.5-1cm above the upper lip line
 
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