pike with arowana
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All of the Lugubris Family.........14+".........And Crenicichla Sp. Venezuela..........But the Pike Master will be on to School all of us
Largemouthbadbass;660394; said:All of the Lugubris Family.........14+".........And Crenicichla Sp. Venezuela..........But the Pike Master will be on to School all of us
I agree on the Lugubris family. Pikes in my opinion are more agressive than silvers and black arowana and not as much as Jardini. No experience with asian or Leichardti. That being said I would make sure the arowana has size on the pike but not too much size so that the arowana could eat the pike. It could be a difficult task to pull off unless you are planning a huge tank for them which you will need if you have an arowana. I know of a pet store around me that has a huge silver 3', big jardini 18", and a huge Cinta Pike approx 16-18" all together with no problems. The tank is huge approx. 500-800 gallons and there are quite a few other fish in the tank as well.
I have a C. proteus(8") with a silver(9-10") and they swim together like they are buds. The pike gave the aro a 30 second beat down when it was first introduces, but now it is all good. My pike has become a top water fish and slams pellets all of the sudden becuase the aro does it (mind you, this pike has never eaten a pellet before this- I think it bit one once and spit it out). I couldn't have asked for better results. But they will be sperated soon.
In this pic the pike got spooked and started hiding, but normally he is up top with the aro gliding around.
In this pic the pike got spooked and started hiding, but normally he is up top with the aro gliding around.
It really is a risky thing keepin an arowana with a pike. In my earlier days of keepin pikes, i didn't quite know their full potential as eaters. Got two arowana to go in with my newly acquired 4" 'pair' of Crenicichla sp. 'xingu I'. Woke up the next mornin to find two really fat pikes and no arowanas. Thus was how my lesson was learned. The arownas were 3", so you can imagine my dismay.
Having said that, arowana ALSO have large mouths and stomachs, and are highly predatory as well. Not to mention they can pack on size as fast if not faster than pikes. So gettin one that is slightly large than the pike can result in problems as it quickly out grows the pike and it becomes lunch. Your best bet would be to get subadult fish..6 to 8" pike cichlid with a 7 to 9" arowana. That way they should be able to stay relatively close to each others size.
There will be some aggression at times, especially since if you do want to risk doing this, you WILL have to get a type of Lugubris pike, as Saxatilis pikes just won't get large enough to safely be kept with adult arowana, which is why softturtle is assumably moving his arowana, cuz in a few months it would most likely end up missing...
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Generally, the best pike cichlids for you to keep if you want to keep them with an arowana are as follows: Crenicichla sp. 'venezuela', Crenicichla johanna, Crenicichla marmorata, Crenicichla lenticulata, and Crenicichla cincta. Those are just a few of the ones that have a chance of workin. I listed cincta last because they have a tendency to be rather aggressive as they get larger, much more aggressive. The arowana would take a beatin to say the least...haha. All of them are ROBUST pike cichlids, with none of them being less than 14" max size...
Hope this helped a little!! Keep us updated!
Having said that, arowana ALSO have large mouths and stomachs, and are highly predatory as well. Not to mention they can pack on size as fast if not faster than pikes. So gettin one that is slightly large than the pike can result in problems as it quickly out grows the pike and it becomes lunch. Your best bet would be to get subadult fish..6 to 8" pike cichlid with a 7 to 9" arowana. That way they should be able to stay relatively close to each others size.
There will be some aggression at times, especially since if you do want to risk doing this, you WILL have to get a type of Lugubris pike, as Saxatilis pikes just won't get large enough to safely be kept with adult arowana, which is why softturtle is assumably moving his arowana, cuz in a few months it would most likely end up missing...
. Generally, the best pike cichlids for you to keep if you want to keep them with an arowana are as follows: Crenicichla sp. 'venezuela', Crenicichla johanna, Crenicichla marmorata, Crenicichla lenticulata, and Crenicichla cincta. Those are just a few of the ones that have a chance of workin. I listed cincta last because they have a tendency to be rather aggressive as they get larger, much more aggressive. The arowana would take a beatin to say the least...haha. All of them are ROBUST pike cichlids, with none of them being less than 14" max size...
Hope this helped a little!! Keep us updated! Peanut_Power;661926; said:It really is a risky thing keepin an arowana with a pike. In my earlier days of keepin pikes, i didn't quite know their full potential as eaters. Got two arowana to go in with my newly acquired 4" 'pair' of Crenicichla sp. 'xingu I'. Woke up the next mornin to find two really fat pikes and no arowanas. Thus was how my lesson was learned. The arownas were 3", so you can imagine my dismay.
Having said that, arowana ALSO have large mouths and stomachs, and are highly predatory as well. Not to mention they can pack on size as fast if not faster than pikes. So gettin one that is slightly large than the pike can result in problems as it quickly out grows the pike and it becomes lunch. Your best bet would be to get subadult fish..6 to 8" pike cichlid with a 7 to 9" arowana. That way they should be able to stay relatively close to each others size.
There will be some aggression at times, especially since if you do want to risk doing this, you WILL have to get a type of Lugubris pike, as Saxatilis pikes just won't get large enough to safely be kept with adult arowana, which is why softturtle is assumably moving his arowana, cuz in a few months it would most likely end up missing...
Generally, the best pike cichlids for you to keep if you want to keep them with an arowana are as follows: Crenicichla sp. 'venezuela', Crenicichla johanna, Crenicichla marmorata, Crenicichla lenticulata, and Crenicichla cincta. Those are just a few of the ones that have a chance of workin. I listed cincta last because they have a tendency to be rather aggressive as they get larger, much more aggressive. The arowana would take a beatin to say the least...haha. All of them are ROBUST pike cichlids, with none of them being less than 14" max size...
ok thx alot guys for the input...im actually looking for a decent size marmorata right now...by the way i have a channa in my tank will it post as a problem as it kinda looks similar to pikes...thx again..
They are also pretty close to both being max. size....an adult pike has a better chance as they are much larger and more robust than the younger subadults and so on. It can be done, but I've seen a lot of people loose their pikes because of thinkin it will be aight. Its a risk I'm nervous about takin to say the least....but to each their own.