pikes in soft water

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mriversinco

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I'm getting a couple of orange pike cichlids but I'm curious how my water conditions will affect the fish. The water if very soft, with extremely high alkalinity and high ph (about 8.6). I see that pikes like acidic water, but are pretty tough. Will this water be bad for them? Of course, I'll do weekly water changes and keep the nitrates low.

Thanks
 
8.6 would be really high for pikes. id suggest trying to get something to lower ur pH into the lower 7's at least.

one thing i also wonder... is if ur water is soft does the pH lower over time in your tanks. alot of time i notice the water pH is high out of the tap. ive had my tanks ina few locations. one the pH would eventually drop to 6, one would level off at around 7. and one stays high at about 8. im not a water chamistry expert so maybe someone else can add to this.
 
HiImSean;2701243; said:
ph usually wont drop during cycling. try adding some driftwood to lower the ph in the tank.
agreed. IMO, driftwood is the best way...it's safe and it looks good. There are other ways, too if you can't get it down, but I would start off with that. They like soft water but not that basic.
 
It's the alkaninity that determines if the pH drops in a body of water over time. For lack of the scientific term, it's the buffering capacity of the water. Since the OP stated the water has high alkaninity, it wouldn't drop much if at all on it's own.

Unfortunately, the driftwood might not work as well as it normally would with a high alkaninity, but I'd still try it simply becuase the only other alternitive is an RO unit.
 
darth pike;2702112; said:
It's the alkaninity that determines if the pH drops in a body of water over time. For lack of the scientific term, it's the buffering capacity of the water. Since the OP stated the water has high alkaninity, it wouldn't drop much if at all on it's own.

Unfortunately, the driftwood might not work as well as it normally would with a high alkaninity, but I'd still try it simply becuase the only other alternitive is an RO unit.
IDK if you were directing that at me, but I know what high alkalinity means. It's worth a try, though as you said.

You can also try filtering with peat or adding ketapang or other leaves.
 
Sorry pwmin ... was answering the second post about why some water drops pH and others don't. Should have been more specific.

You think the steelers will need the refs to help them again this superbowl??? :naughty:
 
darth pike;2702473; said:
Sorry pwmin ... was answering the second post about why some water drops pH and others don't. Should have been more specific.

You think the steelers will need the refs to help them again this superbowl??? :naughty:
oh, no worries. That's what I thought you were referring to, but it could've been referring to me, too.


:ROFL: They better not. All they need to do to win is stop the Warner-Fitzgerald connection, even if their offense doesn't do too well, and their pass defense is top-notch, so I don't see that being a problem.
 
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