planted brackish tank

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cudamaster13

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i am going to be adding 14-15" red mangroves and sumatra ferns to my tank to eat up nutrients and act as hideing places and to make the tank look nice is this okay there are going to be orange monos,eel gobies,one archer fish,silver datnoid,and crabs and large ghost shrimp in the tank is this idea of planted tank a good or bad im going to ad the mangroves anyway becuase im replaceing ones that died?
 
cudamaster13;3857927; said:
i am going to be adding 14-15" red mangroves and sumatra ferns to my tank to eat up nutrients and act as hideing places and to make the tank look nice is this okay there are going to be orange monos,eel gobies,one archer fish,silver datnoid,and crabs and large ghost shrimp in the tank is this idea of planted tank a good or bad im going to ad the mangroves anyway becuase im replaceing ones that died?

my tank has a small elevated area since i at first wanted mud skippers but changed my mind this is were the mangroves are going it is a 85 gallon tank
 
It doesn't sound bad, but here's my thoughts...

1) Be careful about how many mangroves you add. Mangroves need a lot of nutrients to survive, and several in one tank may actually starve each other if there isn't enough for them to use in the water/soil. I've had this happen to me before with a group of 4 mangroves.

2) Orange monos are very fast feeders, and can suck up food effortlessly and quickly. Eel gobies, on the other hand, are not, and you may find that the monos will be too much competition for them. I suggest you either find a method of trget feeding the gobies or leave them out of the setup.

3) Archerfish are schooling fish - they like to be in groups, preferably 3 or more, and the more the merrier as they always say. Look into buying a school or adding on induviduals to boost the school over time.

4) Your stock list looks a little like a food chain. Your plants are likely to fall victim to your crabs, especially if they're the so-called commonly sold 'red crabs'. And both your shrimp and your crabs are vulnerable to the archerfish and silver datnoid. I think the invertebrates should stay out of this setup.
 
SalmonAfrica;3860066; said:
It doesn't sound bad, but here's my thoughts...

1) Be careful about how many mangroves you add. Mangroves need a lot of nutrients to survive, and several in one tank may actually starve each other if there isn't enough for them to use in the water/soil. I've had this happen to me before with a group of 4 mangroves.

2) Orange monos are very fast feeders, and can suck up food effortlessly and quickly. Eel gobies, on the other hand, are not, and you may find that the monos will be too much competition for them. I suggest you either find a method of trget feeding the gobies or leave them out of the setup.

3) Archerfish are schooling fish - they like to be in groups, preferably 3 or more, and the more the merrier as they always say. Look into buying a school or adding on induviduals to boost the school over time.

4) Your stock list looks a little like a food chain. Your plants are likely to fall victim to your crabs, especially if they're the so-called commonly sold 'red crabs'. And both your shrimp and your crabs are vulnerable to the archerfish and silver datnoid. I think the invertebrates should stay out of this setup.

the crabs are like fiddlers with there big claws on the opposit arm but the only prob is the person selling me the mangroves is selling me 12 mangroves:confused: should i take the rest to my lfs and as for nutrients would fertalizers and co2 help feed the mangroves until i have enough nutrients and as for the archer it is species jaculator will it get along with jaculatrix
 
I haven't had experience with fiddlers, so I can't tell you that much... although as far as I know they aren't very aquatic and wouldn't spend too much time in the water.

You can either sell off the excess mangroves or just grow them outside in your garden. Either way just make sure not to overstock the mangroves.

And with regards to the archers, T. jaculator and T. jaculatrix are the same species, those are just synonyms for the same fish. So, yes, they will get along fine. Just try to get specimens of roughly the same size, as bigger archers are likely to bully smaller ones.
 
SalmonAfrica;3861997; said:
I haven't had experience with fiddlers, so I can't tell you that much... although as far as I know they aren't very aquatic and wouldn't spend too much time in the water.

You can either sell off the excess mangroves or just grow them outside in your garden. Either way just make sure not to overstock the mangroves.

And with regards to the archers, T. jaculator and T. jaculatrix are the same species, those are just synonyms for the same fish. So, yes, they will get along fine. Just try to get specimens of roughly the same size, as bigger archers are likely to bully smaller ones.

my archer has spots in between thye biger spots is it another brackish species like the one whos name starts with a c
 
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