please help my pups keep dieing

[amber1986]

I have a male and female metoro stingrays. 610g tank. They had their first set of pups end of dec beginning of jan the best that I can remember, 2 a boy and a female. With these they kept escaping the "baby keeper" that we had used when we got the adults as pups. So we just feed the whole tank heavy hoping they would get food. They both died. The 2nd was a single female pup on 3/23 we moved less than a week late. This pup along with all the rest of our fish where in a holding pond for 2ish weeks while we reworked out main tank and got it set up. None of the fish really ate. The baby survived until we got it into the main tank but end up dying. On 5/29 our female delivered 2 male pups. This time we were ready so we thought. the pups were separated and have not be able to escape. We are unable to get black worms due to covid. So we have attempted to feed them cut up earthworms, hikari tropical sinking carnivore pellets and throwed frozen food. they still don't seem to be eating. 1 of the pups died today. I dont know what to do I don't want the baby to keep starving. We have the male and female separated she had gotten quite beat up and we didn't want another preg until we could fig out what was going on.

 

[deeda]

Can you post your water test results for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH?

 

[amber1986]

My water level has been very stable over the last several years. even with the move but I checked it this morning using a test kit 0,0,40 PH 8.0 Temp. is 85-86F we have all our heaters unplugged. Our house temp is 75F however our tank has always run warm in the summer. We have a seneye water monitoring system it reads PH 8.46-8.30 we have always had trouble getting at true PH reading. I really don't know which is more correct on the PH however both stay pretty consistent with little swing. This also lets me know we are not have ammonia spikes that we are unaware off. The seneye reads we have trace ammonia at 0.044 which to my understanding is normal due to the fish constantly producing ammonia then it being broken down. the test kit will not even detect and read 0 until a reading of 0.25

 

[tlindsey]

I have a male and female metoro stingrays. 610g tank. They had their first set of pups end of dec beginning of jan the best that I can remember, 2 a boy and a female. With these they kept escaping the "baby keeper" that we had used when we got the adults as pups. So we just feed the whole tank heavy hoping they would get food. They both died. The 2nd was a single female pup on 3/23 we moved less than a week late. This pup along with all the rest of our fish where in a holding pond for 2ish weeks while we reworked out main tank and got it set up. None of the fish really ate. The baby survived until we got it into the main tank but end up dying. On 5/29 our female delivered 2 male pups. This time we were ready so we thought. the pups were separated and have not be able to escape. We are unable to get black worms due to covid. So we have attempted to feed them cut up earthworms, hikari tropical sinking carnivore pellets and throwed frozen food. they still don't seem to be eating. 1 of the pups died today. I dont know what to do I don't want the baby to keep starving. We have the male and female separated she had gotten quite beat up and we didn't want another preg until we could fig out what was going on.

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jim barry
spotfin

 

[suckerfish]

I wonder if the conch shells are affecting the water?

 

[amber1986]

How would they affect the water. They have been in there 5 or 6 years. We got them from Jamaica on our honeymoon straight from the ocean.

 

[suckerfish]

I have no idea, I don’t have rays. However, I haven’t seen conch shells in Ray tanks either. Maybe leaching minerals into water? Don’t get me wrong, I like them, just taking a guess. GL

 

[amber1986]

We had them in there when our 2 adults where pups. I'm not sure if they could be affecting the ph but it stays stable. It seems as if the pups never really start to eat even though they are plenty of food. They will swim right over it.

 

[Gpdriftwood]

Run the temperature between 80 and 82, and what kind of frozen foods have u tried? My pups all start on frozen bloodworms, brine and mysis shrimp before moving on to the earthworms.

 

[amber1986]

Run the temperature between 80 and 82, and what kind of frozen foods have u tried? My pups all start on frozen bloodworms, brine and mysis shrimp before moving on to the earthworms.

All of our heaters are unplugged. We do nothing to increase the temp that we are aware of. It would be good if the temp was lower and we do run the tank at 78-80 in the cooler months when we need the heaters. I will have to ask my husband what kind of frozen food he has tried.