Hi guys, could I get an ID for this fish please. Thinking of using it as a staple food for my piranha but just need to check if it contains thiaminase.
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Please ID this fish
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I agree with Krich it does look like a smelt and. they contain Thiaminase.
I just want to add that not all smelt contain Thiaminase.
This species of smelt is safe Smelt (pond) (Hypomesus olidus) (this species usually selling in Asian Market under tag name "Lake Smelt")
Here is a list of safe and unsafe fish (smelt show up on both but it is a different species.
Unsafe fish (Species reported to contain thiaminase)
Alewife (Alosa pseudoharengus)Anchovies (Anchoa hepsetus)
Anchovies (Engraulis mordax)
Bass (white) (Lepibema chrysops)
Black quahog (Artica islandica)
Bowfin (dogfish) (Amia calva)
Bream (Abramis brama)
Buckeye shiner (Notropus atherionoides)
Buffalofish (Ictiobus cyprinellus)
Bull Head (Ameirurus m. melas)
Burbot (Lota lota maculosa)
Burbot (Lota lota)
Butterfish (Poronotus triacanthus)
Carp (Cyprinus carpio)
Catfish (channel) (Ictalurus laccustris punctatus)
Clams (chowder, steamer, cherrystone)
Fathead minnow (Primephales p. promelas)
Garfish (garpike)
Goldfish (Carassius auratus)
Herring (Baltic) (Clupea harengus var. membranus)
Herring (Clupea harengus)
Lamprey (adult) (Petromyzon marintus)
Mackerel (Scomber japonicas) (Pacific)
Menhaden (Brecoortia tyrannus)
Menhaden (large scale) (Brecoortia patronus)
Moray ell (Gymnothorax ocellatus)
Mussel (bigtoe) (Pluerobema cordatum)
Razor belly (scaled sardine) (Harengula pensacolae)
Sauger (Stizostedion c. canadense)
Scallop (Placopecten grandis)
Sculpin (Myooxocephalus quadricornis thompsonii)
Shad (gizzard) (Dorosoma cepedianum)
Shiner (spottail) (Notropis hudsonius)
Smelt (freshwater) (Osmerus mordax)
Stoneroller (central) (Campostoma anomalum pullum)
Sucker (common white) (Catostomus c. commersonii)
White bass (Lepimbema chrysops)
Whitefish (Prosopium cylindraceum quadriaterale)
Whitefish (Coregonus clupeaformis)
Safe fish (Species reported not to contain thiaminase)
Ayu (Plecoglossus altivelis)
Bass (largemouth) (Huro salmoides)
Bass (rock) (Ambloplites r. rupestris)
Bass (smallmouth) (Micropterus d. dolomieu)
Black backs (pseudopleuronectes americanus)
Bluegill (Lepomis m. macrochirus)
Chub (bloater) (Coregonus hoyi)
Cod (Gadus morrhua)
Crappie (Pomoxis nigro-maculatus)
Croaker (Micropogon undulatus)
Cunner (Tautogolabrus adspersus)
Cusk (Brosme brosme)
Cutlassfish (silver eel) (Trichiurus lepturus)
Dogfish (squalus acanthias)
Eel (anguilla rostrata)
Gar (northern longnose) (Lepisosteus osseus oxyurus)
Haddack (Melanogrammus aeglefinus)
Halibut (Hippoglossus hippoglossus)
Hake (Urophycis spp.)
Herring (Leucichthys artedi areturus)
King whiting (ground whiting) (Menticirrhus americanus)
Lemon sole (Psuedopleuronectes americanus dignabilis)
Lizard Fish (Synodus foetens)
Mackerel (Scomber scombrus)
Mullet (Mugil spp.)
Perch (yellow) (Perca flavescens)
Pike (northern) (Esox lucius)
Pike (wall-eyed) (stizostedion vitreum)
Plaice (Canadian) (Hippoglossoides platessoides)
Pollock (Pollachitus virens)
Porgy (scup) (Stenotomus aculeatus)
Porgy (scup) (Stenotomus chrysops)
Pumpkinseed (Lepomis gibbosus)
Redfish (Sebastes marinus)
Salmon (Salmo salar)
Salmon (Coho) (Oncorhynchus kisutch)
Seabass (c entropristis striatas)
Sea catfish (galeichthys felis)
Sea robin (Prionotus spp.)
Smelt (pond) (Hypomesus olidus)
Spot (Leiostomus xanthurus)
Squid (Loligo brevis)
Tautog (blackfish) (Tautoga onitis)
Trout (brown) (Salmo trutta fario)
Trout (lake) (Christiconer n. namaycush)
Trout (rainbow) (Salmo gairdnerii irideus)
White trout (Cynoscion nothus)
White trout (Cynoscion avenarius)
Whiting (Merluccius bilinearis)
Yellow tails
This species of smelt is safe Smelt (pond) (Hypomesus olidus) (this species usually selling in Asian Market under tag name "Lake Smelt")
Here is a list of safe and unsafe fish (smelt show up on both but it is a different species.
Unsafe fish (Species reported to contain thiaminase)
Alewife (Alosa pseudoharengus)Anchovies (Anchoa hepsetus)
Anchovies (Engraulis mordax)
Bass (white) (Lepibema chrysops)
Black quahog (Artica islandica)
Bowfin (dogfish) (Amia calva)
Bream (Abramis brama)
Buckeye shiner (Notropus atherionoides)
Buffalofish (Ictiobus cyprinellus)
Bull Head (Ameirurus m. melas)
Burbot (Lota lota maculosa)
Burbot (Lota lota)
Butterfish (Poronotus triacanthus)
Carp (Cyprinus carpio)
Catfish (channel) (Ictalurus laccustris punctatus)
Clams (chowder, steamer, cherrystone)
Fathead minnow (Primephales p. promelas)
Garfish (garpike)
Goldfish (Carassius auratus)
Herring (Baltic) (Clupea harengus var. membranus)
Herring (Clupea harengus)
Lamprey (adult) (Petromyzon marintus)
Mackerel (Scomber japonicas) (Pacific)
Menhaden (Brecoortia tyrannus)
Menhaden (large scale) (Brecoortia patronus)
Moray ell (Gymnothorax ocellatus)
Mussel (bigtoe) (Pluerobema cordatum)
Razor belly (scaled sardine) (Harengula pensacolae)
Sauger (Stizostedion c. canadense)
Scallop (Placopecten grandis)
Sculpin (Myooxocephalus quadricornis thompsonii)
Shad (gizzard) (Dorosoma cepedianum)
Shiner (spottail) (Notropis hudsonius)
Smelt (freshwater) (Osmerus mordax)
Stoneroller (central) (Campostoma anomalum pullum)
Sucker (common white) (Catostomus c. commersonii)
White bass (Lepimbema chrysops)
Whitefish (Prosopium cylindraceum quadriaterale)
Whitefish (Coregonus clupeaformis)
Safe fish (Species reported not to contain thiaminase)
Ayu (Plecoglossus altivelis)
Bass (largemouth) (Huro salmoides)
Bass (rock) (Ambloplites r. rupestris)
Bass (smallmouth) (Micropterus d. dolomieu)
Black backs (pseudopleuronectes americanus)
Bluegill (Lepomis m. macrochirus)
Chub (bloater) (Coregonus hoyi)
Cod (Gadus morrhua)
Crappie (Pomoxis nigro-maculatus)
Croaker (Micropogon undulatus)
Cunner (Tautogolabrus adspersus)
Cusk (Brosme brosme)
Cutlassfish (silver eel) (Trichiurus lepturus)
Dogfish (squalus acanthias)
Eel (anguilla rostrata)
Gar (northern longnose) (Lepisosteus osseus oxyurus)
Haddack (Melanogrammus aeglefinus)
Halibut (Hippoglossus hippoglossus)
Hake (Urophycis spp.)
Herring (Leucichthys artedi areturus)
King whiting (ground whiting) (Menticirrhus americanus)
Lemon sole (Psuedopleuronectes americanus dignabilis)
Lizard Fish (Synodus foetens)
Mackerel (Scomber scombrus)
Mullet (Mugil spp.)
Perch (yellow) (Perca flavescens)
Pike (northern) (Esox lucius)
Pike (wall-eyed) (stizostedion vitreum)
Plaice (Canadian) (Hippoglossoides platessoides)
Pollock (Pollachitus virens)
Porgy (scup) (Stenotomus aculeatus)
Porgy (scup) (Stenotomus chrysops)
Pumpkinseed (Lepomis gibbosus)
Redfish (Sebastes marinus)
Salmon (Salmo salar)
Salmon (Coho) (Oncorhynchus kisutch)
Seabass (c entropristis striatas)
Sea catfish (galeichthys felis)
Sea robin (Prionotus spp.)
Smelt (pond) (Hypomesus olidus)
Spot (Leiostomus xanthurus)
Squid (Loligo brevis)
Tautog (blackfish) (Tautoga onitis)
Trout (brown) (Salmo trutta fario)
Trout (lake) (Christiconer n. namaycush)
Trout (rainbow) (Salmo gairdnerii irideus)
White trout (Cynoscion nothus)
White trout (Cynoscion avenarius)
Whiting (Merluccius bilinearis)
Yellow tails
The fish pictured above looks more like a silverside, Menidia menidia. Where did you get it? I see you are in Ireland.
Interesting how the majority of the fish on that list are baitfish commonly eaten in the wild
Exactly, that show we pretty much don't have a lot knowledge about nature yet lol
