Pls help.

[justin_cu]

1st question is crenicichla atabapo 1 same as c. Lugubris? Red tapajos?

2nd im planning to buy c. Atabapo 1. Im quite confused as there is c. Atabapo 2. But im looking for is the 1 that turns RED. And im told atabapo 1 turns red in sub adult stage. Pls help me id are these correct?
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[ExoticGREEN]

They don't look like atabapo 1 prob either strigata . Or either like a belly crawler

 

[crenicichla444]

No ATABAPO is not the same as tapajos hence the different names... Very different fish. They inhabit diff waters and behave differently too.

A1 turn more red than A2 usually. A2 are the "ladder pikes". Those in the pic are either juvenile colorless atabapo I or sp Venezuela

 

[adamsfishes]

Tapajos red seems super cool, but good luck finding one. Might have a better time tracking down a unicorn.

 

[softturtle]

My atabapo I looked like that as juvenile and turned red later. Some times I can still see that stripe pattern when they are freaked out a bit (like this morning after 24hrs of no power and water temps dipping into the 50s)

 

[ZhenZhu]

In my opinion it may be a Strigata....May be wrong.since they would be stressed out!!!

 

[adamsfishes]

Kinda look like pictures of Crenicichla sp. Venezuela that I have seen.

 

[justin_cu]

My atabapo I looked like that as juvenile and turned red later. Some times I can still see that stripe pattern when they are freaked out a bit (like this morning after 24hrs of no power and water temps dipping into the 50s)

Thx. I feel it is really creni atabapo 1 i just needed someone to confirm.

 

[adamsfishes]

It looks like juvenile Adabapo I has a dark line under the eyes. Do yours have that? It's hard to tell from the pictures as they are a bit blurry. See pics below. Not mine - first is from Jeff Rapps/tangledupincichlids, second is from MFK user Mustardtiger101 in this thread:

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/red-atabapo-pike-questions.603478/