Potential Future Tankmates: I'm worried...opinions please.

[r3dbullxxx]

INFO:
I currently have 8 tanks ranging from 10-200gallons...long story short...I have a 12" Florida gar and a 6-7" Warmouth...and two 4-5" Warmouths...I currently have all 3 warmouths in a pond tank with Mayans as I have caught them myself...however...the gar I bought.

Despite the fact that I just realized that this pond is gross and I wouldn't want to subject my gar (fish+tank+canister) to the potential disasters the pond water/fish would bring...my question was going to be.....

QUESTION:
Would the gar and the warmouth (or all 3 of them) be able to coexist in a tank assuming it was 200-400 gallons with enough hides and vegetation, etc. or do you think at some point....

SCENARIO 1:
The gar would eventually see the warmouths as food

or

SCENARIO 2:
The warmouths would harass the captive-bred gar into oblivion?

or

SCENARIO 3:
TBD

*The warmouths actually approach me when I approach the glass and the largest one will flare up and assert dominance over the the other 2 when I'm feeding and has no problem eating whatever I drop in there...I'm tentative to even tease him with a finger...well, because I'm a wuss...lol.

I think I answered my own question simply based on the pons water/parasites/grossness...but, am still curious the opinions/experience people have had with both species since I am new to both...

Thanks

 

[Rougarou]

The first question is why are you keeping fish in what you admit are substandard “gross” conditions? The second question should be why would you want to put a beautiful. Healthy gar into what sounds like sewerage? Third question is why you would want to put a large predatory carnivore in with fish smaller than it? The math isn’t hard to figure out. Perhaps fish keeping isn’t for you. Knitting or pottery might be a better choice for you.

 

[r3dbullxxx]

The first question is why are you keeping fish in what you admit are substandard “gross” conditions? The second question should be why would you want to put a beautiful. Healthy gar into what sounds like sewerage? Third question is why you would want to put a large predatory carnivore in with fish smaller than it? The math isn’t hard to figure out. Perhaps fish keeping isn’t for you. Knitting or pottery might be a better choice for you.

Bahahaha....let me start my thanking your for NOT answering any of my questions...so helpful...glad you showed up.
That being said, let me waste some time justifying some things to the wanna-be fish forum police...AKA you.

First: I'm not keeping them in substandard conditions...by far. Never have, never would. What I "admitted to" was keeping the warmouths in a 75 gallon tank full of water from the pond they came from and they are used to...

Not that I need to explain to you, but...I acclimate fish from the pond to my water (where I match the salinity) in rotations during water changes since their pond water is between brackish and full salt and since I've seen all sorts of parasites and ichy GROSSNESS come from there on other fish (minnows, mullet, mayans, etc.) ...so, in order to not waste time, I DO consider and refer to the pondwater as GROSS...since I'd never eat the fish out of it, wouldn't swim in it, etc.

That doesn't mean that I keep the poor fish in a bucket of ****.

I know, hard to believe, right? hahaha...

My tank conditions (despite using the pond water during the conversion/acclimation period) are fine, and aside from the tannin color in the tank, you'd never even know it wasn't "normal" water...

*SIDE NOTE*
If the fish I catch can't be properly cared for I put them back. Anything I catch, aside from a single gar I caught with a hook, have been caught with a net because I'm not into hurting them or treating them poorly, hence why I was asking for advice and trying to consider all situations where they wouldn't do well rather than just dumping them in and hoping for the best like a lot of people do...

Second:
I never said I was going to put the gar in the pond water. You got so hyped up to arrest me, you missed that I was considering adding the warmouth(s) to the gar tank inside which has freshwater/slightly brackish parameters.

Third:
Why? (Again, you got it twisted and missed I wanted to bring the warmouth(s) inside, not the other way around. Good try though...A for effort...)

Why consider it? Because if they would/could get along...I'd like to have the fish inside and not living on my porch...lol.

I've seen numerous people with a variety of aggressive/predatory fish live together, especially if they are similar in size. I didn't know if they were "predatory enough" to where would/could hold their own or not, etc. and was simply ASKING A QUESTION.



Perhaps helping people/replying to forum posts isn't for you...since you clearly care more about being a tool than helping/providing information that is actually useful.

 

[Rougarou]

So instead of acclimating the warmoths to a suitable clean environment , we’ll just put them into a tank of the same scummy water they came out of. Brilliant logic. Than to top off we”ll put them in a tank with a large predator, and hope they won’t get eaten, or give my other fish diseases. You’re clearly not thinking this through. Maybe forget about this, for the sake of the fish, and give basket weaving a try instead.

 

[r3dbullxxx]

So instead of acclimating the warmoths to a suitable clean environment , we’ll just put them into a tank of the same scummy water they came out of. Brilliant logic. Than to top off we”ll put them in a tank with a large predator, and hope they won’t get eaten, or give my other fish diseases. You’re clearly not thinking this through. Maybe forget about this, for the sake of the fish, and give basket weaving a try instead.

1. Exatly what I'm doing. I'm not leaving them...I'm switching the water slowly...as stated.
2. Wasn't sure about the predator tank, that's why I asked...considering they are close to the same size.
Your opinion is clearly NO
3. Am eliminating disease and bad water at the moment by keeping in seperate tank, as stated.
4. Useless reply yet again, and still a tool.

Thanks.

I know my post is long, but if you want to actually understand english:

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[phreeflow]

Uh oh..you got caught for asking a question

 

[Rougarou]

Thanks for the link, but it really wasn't necessary. My reading comprehension is typically on point, as always. I can only draw a logical conclusion based on the information extrapolated from the OP. But since you have provided more detail as what your trying to accomplish here, the best advice I can impart after years and years in the hobby, and watching people trying to revolutionize the fine art of building multi species "frankentanks" and failing spectacularly, much to the detriment of the fish, is to reaearch the species in detail and determine if the environment, water parameters, diet, and temperament are compatible. This may require more than reading a few articles on the internet. Understanding what makes these fish tick could take weeks, months, and in some cases, years. Until you gather enough information, only than will you be able to make the determination as to whether or not housing them together is in the best interests of the fish.

 

[Joshuakahan]

The first question is why are you keeping fish in what you admit are substandard “gross” conditions? The second question should be why would you want to put a beautiful. Healthy gar into what sounds like sewerage? Third question is why you would want to put a large predatory carnivore in with fish smaller than it? The math isn’t hard to figure out. Perhaps fish keeping isn’t for you. Knitting or pottery might be a better choice for you.

Maybe answering questions on MFK isn’t for you, maybe stick to twitter where being a dick is a good thing

 

[Joshuakahan]

INFO:
I currently have 8 tanks ranging from 10-200gallons...long story short...I have a 12" Florida gar and a 6-7" Warmouth...and two 4-5" Warmouths...I currently have all 3 warmouths in a pond tank with Mayans as I have caught them myself...however...the gar I bought.

Despite the fact that I just realized that this pond is gross and I wouldn't want to subject my gar (fish+tank+canister) to the potential disasters the pond water/fish would bring...my question was going to be.....

QUESTION:
Would the gar and the warmouth (or all 3 of them) be able to coexist in a tank assuming it was 200-400 gallons with enough hides and vegetation, etc. or do you think at some point....

SCENARIO 1:
The gar would eventually see the warmouths as food

or

SCENARIO 2:
The warmouths would harass the captive-bred gar into oblivion?

or

SCENARIO 3:
TBD

*The warmouths actually approach me when I approach the glass and the largest one will flare up and assert dominance over the the other 2 when I'm feeding and has no problem eating whatever I drop in there...I'm tentative to even tease him with a finger...well, because I'm a wuss...lol.

I think I answered my own question simply based on the pons water/parasites/grossness...but, am still curious the opinions/experience people have had with both species since I am new to both...

Thanks

Ignore that tool that answered you, that D bag has been answering like that under various accounts.
While I’m experienced with warmouth, I’ve never kept gar, so unfortunately I can’t help you

 

[ken31cay]

Ignore that tool that answered you, that D bag has been answering like that under various accounts.
While I’m experienced with warmouth, I’ve never kept gar, so unfortunately I can’t help you

Similar thing happened to me after my first few posts here on MFK. Should not be the way newcomers are treated. Good luck to OP, sorry I don't have experience with those fish.