Is $150/spider and $300/bumblebee a good price on either of these snakes?
I'm not really good with what the price range should be on BP morphs and what qualities to look for within the morph itself.
Price Check - BPs
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Is $150/spider and $300/bumblebee a good price on either of these snakes?
I'm not really good with what the price range should be on BP morphs and what qualities to look for within the morph itself.
Depends on size but if your talking juveniles not yet mature then 150 for a spider about right on it, maybe a bit on the low side (usually 150-200) The bumblebee is cheap (500 is a good average).
You need to look at the belly to see how "clean" it looks, I'd look for the amount of yellow as well, not orange as when they mature orange goes brown and therefore is less desirable.
that bumblee bee almost looks like a humble bee (pastelxspiderxghost) which are very valuable. might just bee a poor bumblee bee morph which would explain the price tag.
You need to look at the belly to see how "clean" it looks, I'd look for the amount of yellow as well, not orange as when they mature orange goes brown and therefore is less desirable.
that bumblee bee almost looks like a humble bee (pastelxspiderxghost) which are very valuable. might just bee a poor bumblee bee morph which would explain the price tag.
That's a little high for a male spider & very low for a male bumblebee, and it's a good price for a female of each morph; that's for hatchlings/smaller juveniles by the way. If they're older, then that's a good price regardless of gender.
For example, I can get a well-started spider male for around $125 or a well-started bumblebee male for around $425. Those prices are a rough average based on the prices I've come across at reptile shows and from talking to breeders; naturally, you'll pay a little more for a higher quality snake and less for a lower quality one.
For example, I can get a well-started spider male for around $125 or a well-started bumblebee male for around $425. Those prices are a rough average based on the prices I've come across at reptile shows and from talking to breeders; naturally, you'll pay a little more for a higher quality snake and less for a lower quality one.
They're both females, but I'm unsure of the age/weight/etc.
I asked for photos of the belly and got these back:
I really like the one on the left, my husband likes the one on the right. Truthfully, in terms of BPs what I'd really love to get my hands on is a Pied, but every time I see one they're through the roof on pricing. Though, I did find some on Underground Reptiles that weren't badly priced, but I've gotten a lot of mixed reviews about them so I haven't really considered their animals. But thats something else, so whatever. I think I might pick up one of these two. As far as I'm concerned, though both look like good animals that I'd like to have. And since I have no intentions of breeding I'm not horribly concerned about quality, but more is it worth the cost or should I look elsewhere kind of thing.
I asked for photos of the belly and got these back:
I really like the one on the left, my husband likes the one on the right. Truthfully, in terms of BPs what I'd really love to get my hands on is a Pied, but every time I see one they're through the roof on pricing. Though, I did find some on Underground Reptiles that weren't badly priced, but I've gotten a lot of mixed reviews about them so I haven't really considered their animals. But thats something else, so whatever. I think I might pick up one of these two. As far as I'm concerned, though both look like good animals that I'd like to have. And since I have no intentions of breeding I'm not horribly concerned about quality, but more is it worth the cost or should I look elsewhere kind of thing.
I paid 200 for my spider, and I havnt seen bumblebees cheaper than 500 or 600 near me, if I see one that cheap at the expo in a few days, ill be buying it
Buy those two ASAP!
Just looking at their size, I'd say that you're holding probably at least $600-700 wholesale/show value in snakes. Get them and either bulk them up for higher profit later on down the line or sell/trade them at a show to get your piebald; Internet prices are terrible in comparison to show pricing and you should be able to get at least a decent partial trade for a baby piebald for those two. If they're close to or at breeding age, then that's even better; most vendors will gladly do trades on snakes that will be ready to breed sooner than later.
Just looking at their size, I'd say that you're holding probably at least $600-700 wholesale/show value in snakes. Get them and either bulk them up for higher profit later on down the line or sell/trade them at a show to get your piebald; Internet prices are terrible in comparison to show pricing and you should be able to get at least a decent partial trade for a baby piebald for those two. If they're close to or at breeding age, then that's even better; most vendors will gladly do trades on snakes that will be ready to breed sooner than later.
Wiggles' idea is a good one. Breeding size females (1000g+) are worth alot more money than baby snakes. Males are worth less. Since they are both females raise them up and sell them as virgin breeding size snakes. Between the two of them, you might get enough to buy a quality pied. Also, since your not a breeder, and I have had bad luck trusting people, have them probed to be sexed. if the cute girls are really boys, the value drops. Breeders typically charge about 50-100$ more for females of the same morph
Didn't end up getting either of these, after some back and forth conversations it turns out that the seller was almost 3hrs away. If it was closer to the time of the Hamburg show, I wouldn't have minded since I'd be heading in that direction anyway... tacking on another hour or so wouldn't have been horrible.
However, someone emailed me with a list of morphs they're selling, I'm mostly interested in the Butter ("het. orange ghost) and Butter Bee. Here are two photos of them:
He's asking $225 for the Butter (male, 175g). And it's make an offer on the Butter Bee (female, 314g). He's got a huge list of morphs (Females - Mojave, Albino, Spider, Het Hypo, Normal Males- Lesser, Normal, Spider, Pastel Ghost). Love the look of the Butter Bee, not sure what to offer though... the internet brought up sales that ranged from $200 - $4,000 0_0;;
I also had someone email me about a GORGEOUS Pied. Not horribly priced ($800), but it was just a baby and they couldn't show me it eating or that it had eaten recently. Couldn't make myself drop the cash for it, maybe if it was a store or known breeder where I could bring it back for a refund if something went wrong. ...it sure was gorgeous, though.
However, someone emailed me with a list of morphs they're selling, I'm mostly interested in the Butter ("het. orange ghost) and Butter Bee. Here are two photos of them:
He's asking $225 for the Butter (male, 175g). And it's make an offer on the Butter Bee (female, 314g). He's got a huge list of morphs (Females - Mojave, Albino, Spider, Het Hypo, Normal Males- Lesser, Normal, Spider, Pastel Ghost). Love the look of the Butter Bee, not sure what to offer though... the internet brought up sales that ranged from $200 - $4,000 0_0;;
I also had someone email me about a GORGEOUS Pied. Not horribly priced ($800), but it was just a baby and they couldn't show me it eating or that it had eaten recently. Couldn't make myself drop the cash for it, maybe if it was a store or known breeder where I could bring it back for a refund if something went wrong. ...it sure was gorgeous, though.