Rapps has these Pseudopimelodus sp. orange Jau Pedra. they look very interesting. Can anyone give me some info on them? Is it similiar to Pseudopimelodus bufonius? thanks
Pseudopimelodus sp. orange Jau Pedra
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Likely similar except that they can hit 2' or more.
species is p. mangurus according to Jeff. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...amp-Jao-Pedro-cats-to-rare-Apistos-amp-acaras!
here's some very limited info on p. mangurus http://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=2091
species is p. mangurus according to Jeff. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...amp-Jao-Pedro-cats-to-rare-Apistos-amp-acaras!
here's some very limited info on p. mangurus http://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=2091
This listing also caught my interest as I keep a few pseudopimelodus species including p. bufonis. I suspect the fish in question may be a slightly larger strain of p. bufonis as it was collected in the Rio Toncantins in Brazil. P. Mangurus are native to Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay and are the largest species of the genus pseudopimelodus. I've seen photo's and videos of them caught in Paraguay reaching 10 pounds or so. There are still new species of pseudopimelodus and batrochoglanis that are being discovered and/or haven't been properly identified in many countries in South America. The common p. bufonis rarely get larger than 8 or 9" so the one's Jeff has may be something new indeed…
They are still available. Has anybody got them? I wonder what they look like. Listed as Pseudopimelodus cf. mangurus ‘orange Jau Pedra’.
Jeff has a picture of this fish on his T.U.I.C website, to me it looks just the same or very similar to the common p. bufonis that I still keep. I have seen photo's with no origin or info of similar fish that look the same but are of larger size than the usual 9" size of what's usually imported here.
This is one said to be from Colombia:
This is one said to be from Colombia:
Thanks, Kirk! You are right. It's on the home page. Interesting. Why won't you gamble on this one? It's "only" $150 but you are supposed to be a Pseudopim junky 
The photo you provided is very enticing...
The photo you provided is very enticing...Well, I don't really want one as if they're similar to "regular" p. bufonis, they are so shy and nocturnal you'll never see 'em if you give them the environment they like which is low light and lots of driftwood hiding places. I've had my pair for like a dozen years and get a quick glimpse of them outside the driftwood maybe once a month at best. They are extremely hard if not impossible to wean off live feeder goldfish which is necessary when housed with other less shy cat species as in my case, which would beat them to other foods they might eat like worms or night crawlers.
If they do grow larger than the 'commons' then a large tank might be required and I don't really have room for more tanks. Even if I did there are other species on my 'wish list' that I find more interesting. It's not about the money, as it is, I paid like $300 for a rare batrochoglanis that has it's own tank and I've seen it come out of hiding only once in the year it's been in my care. Kind of hard to justify getting another pricey reclusive fish that's expensive to feed as well..
I found this photo of a genuine p. mangurus caught in Paraguay or Argentina if I recall:
Maybe one like this would work in your pond?
If they do grow larger than the 'commons' then a large tank might be required and I don't really have room for more tanks. Even if I did there are other species on my 'wish list' that I find more interesting. It's not about the money, as it is, I paid like $300 for a rare batrochoglanis that has it's own tank and I've seen it come out of hiding only once in the year it's been in my care. Kind of hard to justify getting another pricey reclusive fish that's expensive to feed as well..
I found this photo of a genuine p. mangurus caught in Paraguay or Argentina if I recall:
Maybe one like this would work in your pond?
Yeah, I remember this shot. Something one does not forget if they like Pseudopims. The fish's is only ~3' but the guy's head may fit in the fish's mouth! It'd be a one of the kind addition to anyone's collection.
Hmm, I did not know you put your fishes' needs painfully, completely, and way above over yours. That's highly admirable. Yet, how would you learn about them if you almost never see them and how would you stay stimulated? Anyhow, I am on the other selfish extreme - I need to see my fish almost always. Right now my two 4500's and ten 240's are bare, which may or may not change in the future depending on how the inhabitants behave.
IIRC, you tend to buy "unknown, under-identified" Pseudopims, hence, my prior post.
Hmm, I did not know you put your fishes' needs painfully, completely, and way above over yours. That's highly admirable. Yet, how would you learn about them if you almost never see them and how would you stay stimulated? Anyhow, I am on the other selfish extreme - I need to see my fish almost always. Right now my two 4500's and ten 240's are bare, which may or may not change in the future depending on how the inhabitants behave.
IIRC, you tend to buy "unknown, under-identified" Pseudopims, hence, my prior post.
Well I too enjoy keeping gregarious species like pimelodids, doradids, cephalosilurus pseudopimelodids and African claroteids among others that can be seen and be interacted with. I like to study the behaviors of lesser known and reclusive catfishes. If one has an infrared night vision scope such as I, you can turn off all the lights in the house and observe their behavioral changes in complete darkness with very nocturnal species and the others as well. It can be amazing to see them do the things you would never see otherwise, especially with new and/or very rare species that will reveal their secret lives…
