Purigen Modular Filter?

[Schweigert]

Alright, I'm new as you can see and currently in the process of gathering the fundamental equipment to handle a single common goldfish. I have in my possession from my previous attempt with 3 lionhead goldfish; 38 gallon bow front tank and a emperor 400 external filter.
Now I'm looking to upgrade my filtration system prior to my new fish with an Eheim 2217, the classic but proven canister filter many adore. In combination i'd like to add a in-line modular filter for purigen media, but I've heard from other its hard to keep it from leeching into the tank.. not something I want..
So are any modular filters better than others for purigen as it is smaller than carbon.. if so any particular models/brands..?

I found a few on Big Al's online:
It lists as a phosphate modular but can purigen be used with it..?
http://www.bigalsonline.com/Fish_Filters_Modular-Filters_Phosphate-Filter_7981569_82.html?tc=fish

Again I appreciate any and all feedback.. thanks guys for letting me pick at your brains! :-D

 

[Racersk]

The link to the filter is for phosphates, not Purigen, so I'm confused?

Phosphates generally are not an issue in fresh water setups ,I thought...Primarily salltwater.

Purigen is great, I have used it for a while and have had no issues with this products abilities to provide bio filtration. Not to be confused with carbon, unless I confused the product description,

 

[rnocera]

You can put it in a filter bag ("The Bag" is the only one that really contains the purigen- it'll fit through the holes in most others) and put it right in the 2217. Even with all the media that comes with it, there's enough room to fit a bag of purigen right on top. I put mine on the very top, too- any solid waste that passes through it will foul it up. It builds up in the bag of purigen, and makes it need cleaned more often, and harder to clean. There's no need for any inline contraption, and I really don't think that would work, anyway. Purigen is really tiny and will move with the water's current if it's loose in your filter, meaning it would keep passing through, and go right into the tank. I can't think of any type of inline filtration to use where you wouldn't need to still put it in a bag, and why bother when it will fit in the 2217?

If you have issues with space, you can pull out a SIGNIFICANT amount of the bio filtration from a 2217 and still have it work perfectly fine, especially on a 38 gallon tank. I ran one for a while on a heavily stocked 60 gal with carnivorous fish who ate live fish, as well as bloodworms, blackworms, earth worms, and sinking shrimp pellets. I ended up running the filter with less than half of the bio media that came with it, and I never had any issues whatsoever with ammonia or anything showing up in the water.

IMO, the 2217 has enough media to support a colony of bb FAR more larger the flow of a 2217 will actually provide nutrients for the bacteria to thrive. I ran into issues with water movement long before I ran into issues with there not being enough bio media. The handful you might take out to fit the purigen in certainly isn't enough to make a difference on your tank.

 

[Jc1119]

Alright, I'm new as you can see and currently in the process of gathering the fundamental equipment to handle a single common goldfish. I have in my possession from my previous attempt with 3 lionhead goldfish; 38 gallon bow front tank and a emperor 400 external filter.
Now I'm looking to upgrade my filtration system prior to my new fish with an Eheim 2217, the classic but proven canister filter many adore. In combination i'd like to add a in-line modular filter for purigen media, but I've heard from other its hard to keep it from leeching into the tank.. not something I want..
So are any modular filters better than others for purigen as it is smaller than carbon.. if so any particular models/brands..?

I found a few on Big Al's online:
It lists as a phosphate modular but can purigen be used with it..?
http://www.bigalsonline.com/Fish_Filters_Modular-Filters_Phosphate-Filter_7981569_82.html?tc=fish

Again I appreciate any and all feedback.. thanks guys for letting me pick at your brains! :-D

absolutely....its just a reactor for any kind of media you want to use, carbon, phosban, purigen..etc

i dont think it comes with a pump though. Small mini jet or powerhead would work. Purigen works really well, but I found it most useful when I was keeping goldfish myself......very messy fish and the purigen helped keep that tank very clean.

and as stated above, as long as its in the water path somewhere it will work...

 

[Schweigert]

Update guys..!

I found a live demonstration on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFV9nb7pEIE

It proves at least with the Two Little Fishes phosban reactor it can be done.. Reason why a reactor versus the simple bag method is the movemnt and equal dispersion of the media itself. It is far more effective at removing contaminents this way.

Sadly I've chose to go with a Fluval 305 over the Eheim 2217.. So I'm going to need to think up a way to attach this reactor to the outflow tubing.. somehow..

 

[Spiritofthesoul]

Awesome, I have always been thinking of using purigen and cant find a mesh bag fine enough to contain it without restricting water flow.

Thanks for the heads-up