Question for Nic keepers

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Hi everyone!

Longtime lurker, and finally created an account -- I hope you don't mind that I've created a thread in order to ask a question! I'm wondering if any Hypsophrys nicaraguensis owners out there can weigh in on a question I have re: development -- In my cichlid tank, I have a large-ish (7 inches or so) male Nic that has paired off with my female blood parrot (weird, right?). They've laid eggs a few times but never any fry. In a perhaps ill-advised effort to break them up, I recently picked up what I think is a female Nic and added her to the tank. Basically, my question is this: At what size do you start to see the spots in the unpaired fins of male Nics? The new addition is probably between three and four inches and is not showing any colors -- probably due to the fact that he/she is being mercilessly chased by Spike and Parrot. I'm just concerned that it's a juvenile male, and not a female at all -- I'll try to post pictures here in a few minutes, but was hoping that someone who has raised these fish could tell me how large the males were when they started to get the spots. I'd really appreciate any insight you may have! Thanks so much!
 
So these first two pictures are of Spike, and the last few are of the new arrival. I'm sorry for the picture quality, btw :(

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I believe it was around 2.5" That I could start seeing the red spots come out in the male. My females are about 3 maybe a little less and male is about 4" I am still waiting for the blue in the face to show.

Your female looks very stressed.I don't know if nics will hybridize with blood parrot but what got me into nics was my nic x honduran red point hybird. So they will breed with other cichlids.
 
I noticed yours doesn't have the blue face and same with every other user on here. Mine don't either and it is worrying me. I see brilliant blues on you tube videos.
 

The 2 females in the foreground of the pic above, are bothe @ 3", as you can see the male slightly larger.
H nicaraguense are the only Central American cichlid to lay non-adhesive eggs, but I don't know if that is a significant enough difference factor to keep them from hybridizing. If it were me, I'd remove the parrot and let the nics pair up. At this point if the parrot and nic have already paired, the only way allow the nics to pair up naturally, is get rid of the mutant.
 
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My understanding is that there are a couple color variants. The ones from Costa Rica get the blue in the face. The ones from Nicaragua get a dark green face.
 
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