questions about stocking

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keaser06

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I just got a good offer on a tank if it turns out to be what the person says. Now my question is I have the fish I want to go in it already I want to know how long this stock could live in this tank I know most of the fish wont be able to be lifers in a 125 but these fish are going to live in a permanent tank together eventually. So heres my current stock (split between many tanks) 1 Tiger Oscar 11", 6 Silver Dollars 4-6", 1 Satanoperca Leucostica 6", 5 Gephagus Jurapari 2.5-3.5", 1 Indo Dat 4.5", 1 Jaguar Cichlid 6". These fish would all be added slowly depending on size and temperament if this could be a working tank how long would it work in the 125 before they all had to move. Also any suggested tank size for this stock to live together in for life would be appreciated. (would like to add a few cichla orinocensis to finished tank)
 
Minus the jag, it should work. the jag would be too aggressive for the others in this tank
 
It depends on the temperment of your fish. But generally the Jag will be the most aggressive due to their need to establish territories. I had a Jag in a 120gal and it claimed the majority of the tank. All the others were forced to a small section of the tank to avoid being attacked. But there are people that keep Jags with other fish with no problems. If you intend on adding several Cichla you will need a much larger tank. They get very big. I guess to keep all of the stock that you want a 300gal or larger would be in order. I'm not a Cichla expert though. I'm just going by the largest size of the smallest Cichla species.
 
Thanks. I plan to eventually have a 300g+ tank. My Jag was severely beaten by another jag and did not even try to fight back so I believe he will be ok with the other fish but we will see.
 
I would be very cautious with the jag. I had a jag with other cichlids (midas, gt, jd, firemouth) in a 125 a long time ago. They got along fine for quite a while, the jag even got punked by the firemouth. But once the jag hit around 6-7" everything changed and the jag took over the tank. The rest of the fish were forced into a small corner.

I've always believed that jags are not so much aggressive as they are territorial...but they are hyper-territorial and require a much larger territory than most other types of cichlids. If they are in a large enough tank where they can have a proper territory that keeps them happy then they can actually be quite passive.

The biggest problem, imo, is that if the jag does decide to cause problems, the other fish with him will literally stand no chance against him and he could do a very large amount of damage in a very short time.
 
keaser06;4807592; said:
I just got a good offer on a tank if it turns out to be what the person says. Now my question is I have the fish I want to go in it already I want to know how long this stock could live in this tank I know most of the fish wont be able to be lifers in a 125 but these fish are going to live in a permanent tank together eventually. So heres my current stock (split between many tanks) 1 Tiger Oscar 11", 6 Silver Dollars 4-6", 1 Satanoperca Leucostica 6", 5 Gephagus Jurapari 2.5-3.5", 1 Indo Dat 4.5", 1 Jaguar Cichlid 6". These fish would all be added slowly depending on size and temperament if this could be a working tank how long would it work in the 125 before they all had to move. Also any suggested tank size for this stock to live together in for life would be appreciated. (would like to add a few cichla orinocensis to finished tank)

Jaguar cichlid will take over the tank within half a year to a year..........Place him either as a lone showcase in the 125 or purchase a new tank for him, a 100g.........Or, you can remove all the other fish and leave that beutiful Oscar in there.......Add two more O's and you have yourself a trio........Or make it a Geophagus breeder/showcase setup..........I am more of purist when it comes to my tanks, makes it easier, and feels cleaner..........My 125 at one point had three AC101's and a Diy wet/dry filter running through it, at one time...Besides a varied diet, filtration, in the end, will determine the health of the fish.....
 
Well like I said this isn't permanent but more to give all the fish more room for now. The jag is around 6" already and he is very laid back. We will see how it works after I get the tank.
 
keaser06;4813283; said:
Well like I said this isn't permanent but more to give all the fish more room for now. The jag is around 6" already and he is very laid back. We will see how it works after I get the tank.


Is your sig accurate? If so then the jag is in a 40 gallon by itself right? If that's the case then what are you basing it on when you say that he's very laid back? He's in a tank by himself so there's nothing challenging him for territory. Plus he's right about the size where he's going to hit maturity and his true nature will come out.

Just something to think about.
 
Jason_S;4813423; said:
Is your sig accurate? If so then the jag is in a 40 gallon by itself right? If that's the case then what are you basing it on when you say that he's very laid back? He's in a tank by himself so there's nothing challenging him for territory. Plus he's right about the size where he's going to hit maturity and his true nature will come out.

Just something to think about.

Yes he is by himself now because where I got him from he was being picked on badly and got beat pretty badly. I got him to nurse him back to health and see if he kept his laid back personally that he had in the other tank. He was housed with another jag the same size and did not show any aggression or even try to defend himself against the other. When I get the tank I am going to put the jag in by himself once the tank is cycled then add the oscar and go from there based on what happens.
 
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