RD and GT?

[gibson324]

Hey guys I was wondering,in a 55 gallon tank if I were to raise a Red Devil(Amphilophus labiatus) would it be ok if I put a green terror with it in the tank? Or am I

 

[pokkerfeen]

wont work in a 55.. red devil will kill it eventually.

 

[cichlid2006]

chances are you will have a red devil only. plus a 55 is only really big enough for one of those fish for life, a 75 for a single one of those would be ideal though.

 

[seel1990]

if they are growing up together then that might work but eventually... just be prepared

 

[HrHagel]

You can put as many fish in a 55 as you want as long as theire isn't ANY decor.

My tanks are living proof of this. Never had a fish killed or even fin nipping in any of my overstocked "impossible to do" tanks..

 

[Sarah88]

You can put as many fish in a 55 as you want as long as theire isn't ANY decor.

My tanks are living proof of this. Never had a fish killed or even fin nipping in any of my overstocked "impossible to do" tanks..

so you saying he could put dovii and umbee in that tank together or 10 oscars and it would work as long as there was no decor there would be more fish than water!! but anyways as for OPs question NO it will not work, unless you find a particularly aggressive GT and a mild RD there is no way the RD wont kill the GT eventually (probably right away though) and you wuold need AT LEAST a 90g if not larger for them to be able to have a chance at working, and yes like stated red devil needs at least a 75g for life but you could do a lone GT in a 55g just fine with some dithers and maybe a small bichir like a senegal

 

[HrHagel]

so you saying he could put dovii and umbee in that tank together or 10 oscars and it would work as long as there was no decor there would be more fish than water!! but anyways as for OPs question NO it will not work, unless you find a particularly aggressive GT and a mild RD there is no way the RD wont kill the GT eventually (probably right away though) and you wuold need AT LEAST a 90g if not larger for them to be able to have a chance at working, and yes like stated red devil needs at least a 75g for life but you could do a lone GT in a 55g just fine with some dithers and maybe a small bichir like a senegal

My 112g stock includes :

1x Flowerhorn/midas
1x Jaguar
1x GT
1x JD
1x Blue acara
1x Sajica
1x Buetticoferi
1x Salvini
2x Convicts
1x Clownknife
2x Geo. Steiny
2x S. Leucosticta
4x Loaches
2x ram's
3x Severums
1x Red jewel
Edit. Forgot to add, there's a blue gourami and a big geo. brasiliensis in there aswell.
(The Geo's and Satanoperca and ram's are only temporarily in here, while i'm setting up my new tank for them. The "old" one starting leaking for some odd reason, badly, and they had to be emergency extracted)

This is extremely "overstocked" and IMPOSSIBLE. But what is the actual meaning of overstocking? If my fish are happy/healthy, growing well etc. Who's to say my tank is "overstocked" ? Who lays down the law of when a tank is overstocked? And what are the parameters?

Not one of my fish has a single fin nip. Not one of my fish is sick. All of my fish are eating well.

i can throw up a picture if you would like proof, once the debree settles after the 50% wc i just did.

Obviously, there are some reading between the lines needed in my above post.
It obviously requires you to have an understanding of what the different fish require (or can tolerate)
And general fishkeeping logic and knowledge.

I am no expert fishkeepers, and if i can do it, so easely and un-troubled without a single problem, why am i the only one in the universe able to do this? Fact is, everybody can easely do it, if they dared trying, and ventured into "FORBIDDEN" country, and actually experienced things for themselves instead of being told by others.

I am not saying the OP should do it, i am saying he can

 

[Sarah88]

My 112g stock includes :

Not one of my fish has a single fin nip. Not one of my fish is sick. All of my fish are eating well.

i can throw up a picture if you would like proof, once the debree settles after the 50% wc i just did.

Obviously, there are some reading between the lines needed in my above post.
It obviously requires you to have an understanding of what the different fish require (or can tolerate)
And general fishkeeping logic and knowledge.

I am no expert fishkeepers, and if i can do it, so easely and un-troubled without a single problem, why am i the only one in the universe able to do this? Fact is, everybody can easely do it, if they dared trying, and ventured into "FORBIDDEN" country, and actually experienced things for themselves instead of being told by others.

I am not saying the OP should do it, i am saying he can

no i believe you and thats fine if it works for you and you can keep your parameters in check and all the fish are growing to their full potential, then thats your personal preference (also in your tank none of the fish get as long as the tank is wide but a 55g is only 12in wide which is how long a red devil can get which would inhibit his turning around) and i dont think its so much people doing what they are told but what someones personal preference is, obviously you like having a mass of fish in one tank, i personally like only having a few in a tank with deco where they can exhibit their natural behavior of claiming a territory and interacting with the other fish in the tank instead of a huge mass of fish swimming one way and then another with nothing to do but wait for the next feeding

 

[HrHagel]

no i believe you and thats fine if it works for you and you can keep your parameters in check and all the fish are growing to their full potential, then thats your personal preference (also in your tank none of the fish get as long as the tank is wide but a 55g is only 12in wide which is how long a red devil can get which would inhibit his turning around) and i dont think its so much people doing what they are told but what someones personal preference is, obviously you like having a mass of fish in one tank, i personally like only having a few in a tank with deco where they can exhibit their natural behavior of claiming a territory and interacting with the other fish in the tank instead of a huge mass of fish swimming one way and then another with nothing to do but wait for the next feeding

A lot of 55's are not only 12" wide.. atleast not in my country. I guess you guys have standard measurements for the most part.

I agree with you. This is only the tank in my living room. I have a few other tanks, with decor, breeding, terretorial claimings etc. And i enjoy that aswell.

 

[cichlid2006]

prove they are all at adult sizes, prove they are all in there over 3" in length with pics. pics or your boasting is meaningless. and for the record i would love for you to call my bluff and prove me wrong. if your fish are all still very small then i would reconsider bragging about how many fish you can crush into your tank with an impossible mix until they grow and put some size on and let their true natures shine because i fear you will not have the impressive stocklist you have now.

a 55 whether it be 12" wide or not the length will probably be the same, 48" which means that a 55 @ 4ft long regardless of width or height would not be able to house close to the numbers of monsters you mentioned. and at adult sizes if you took the lid off it would be like opening a can of tuna.
even the 150 (5x2x2) i will be receiving would not be able to hold all those monsters above 3" without casualties. your promoting extremely irresponsible fishkeeping IMO, putting rams in with buttis and FH. thats smart fishkeeping you got there

putting a 3" GT with a 9" midas is breaking the general rule of midas or adding 2x 1.5" uaru A. with a 6" male GT is pulling off something that most would consider a substantial success but what your suggesting is a minor miracle.