Rectis are not hardy rays… Or?

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andersp90

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We all know that rectis are picky eaters, and that they are not as hardy compared, to other rays as hystrixs or motoros.

But is this really true?
My local lfs have imported 40-50 rectis the past 2 years. He hasn’t lost a single one. All started eating within a week (most 2-3 rays after arrival). A few took 1 week+. He even got one that was missing 50% of its tail. I was sure I wouldn’t make it. But it pulled through and without any meds!

Everyone is also calling them picky eaters. That’s true though. But does this make them fragile? I think not.
Just take a look at this species. They grow very slow (must be extremely slow in the wild!). They stay small and have tiny mouths compared to other species. All are typical signs of a specialised species. My guess is that they only feed on small worms, insect larva and maybe very small shrimps and fish.
This could explain why they don’t take kindly to new foods. Simply because they are a specialised species, and not opportunists like most other big rays. But I wouldn’t even call them picky, just provide them with their natural food sources, like krill (they are shrimp like), blood worms, live black worms or live shrimps. They will be eating in no time!

My lfs has also imported 11 motoros. One shipment of 5, and one with 6. The first shipment went fine, and all ate within 2 days. But I took almost 2 weeks before the rays’ form the last shipment started feeding!

This is just what I have experienced.

What do you guys think about this subject? :popcorn:
 
to tell the truth retics were the 1st rays i had

i had 3 in a 72x18x18 tank which i never done water changes on ever

they all live happy and well in that tank for 1.5yrs feeding on frozen prawn

i dont think they are any harder to keep than any other rays its just that they are imported at a much smaller size and are not in great condition
 
T1KARMANN;1844457; said:
to tell the truth retics were the 1st rays i had

i had 3 in a 72x18x18 tank which i never done water changes on ever

they all live happy and well in that tank for 1.5yrs feeding on frozen prawn

i dont think they are any harder to keep than any other rays its just that they are imported at a much smaller size and are not in great condition

Well said.. :popcorn:

Anyone else..?
 
its not so much not hardy as it is wholesalers (i guess more in the states) dont really care for them cause they are really cheap... most i see in lfs stores are really skinny and about dead....
 
I had 2 normal retics and 2 red retics. I have found the red retics to be very picky eaters and I have just lost them both to a nitrate spike of 100pm over a week. I know some people say rays are ok with higher nitrate than that reading (not advisable long term) but it killed both of these. Had other rays in the same tank that were fine.

To me it suggests they are not as hardy but this is in total contrast to T1Karmann's experience and I am sure in 1.5 yrs with no water change the nitrate got higher than 100ppm.
 
I have probably had....30 rays in the last 3 years and thats not an exaggerated number... the ONLY one I lost was a retic but it was shipped to me from TFD and of all my rays I only had like 3 of them shipped to me.. Im not blaming the ray at all, just a coincidence but I feel retics are frowned upon because they are cheap but honestly a quality one with a long tail is actually a very nice animal for home aquaria IMO
 
Same story as T1Karmann's. I have had a retic for a little over a year and the first three months I only toped off the water level never did a water change. I would only feed him a bloodworm cube a day. But, you guys saved me and my ray by teaching me how to care for rays. But, the first three months for me is a testiment to how strong of rays they are. Just my .02.PS. Dont worry he is living in awsome condition know.
 
I would agree that retics can be very hardy and easy to keep rays, but under two conditions: First, that they arrive from the importer in relatively stable condition, and are not reshipped multiple times to different wholesalers/distributors before they reach an LFS or home aquarium, and second, that they are not kept with large or aggressive tankmates--particularly other rays such as motoros, brown rays, peru sp., or black rays. I think they are quite capable of living in less-than-perfect water if and only if those two conditions are met. As for the first, I work at an LFS, and have been looking for a female retic for just under a year now. I have special ordered 4 'teacup' or 'small stingrays' from several of our distributors/wholesalers on various occasions over the last year, and all 4 have died within a week of them arriving. 3 of the four came in so skeletal and frail that they never should have been shipped, which leads me to believe that most (but not all) wholesalers/distributors have very little idea how to care for rays or even how to tell a healthy one from one which is near death. So the longer a ray stays in the chain of supply (i.e. the various "middle men" between importer and lfs or home aquaria) the less likely it is to arrive in any kind of reasonable shape. This consideration, perhaps more than any other, is what has prompted most to label retics or teacups as sensitive and difficult rays to keep.
 
i have a retic now, and IMO it is very easy to keep. i feed him blood worms and sinking pellets. i don't know how hard it is to keep motor's and other rays, but IMO, retic's are easy rays.
 
I bought a male P.reticulata and female P.reticulata for $75 a piece three years ago.

They started in a 33 gallon with a BGK and a herd of Corydora. Then into a 80 gal with an Electric Catfish. They began reaching maturity and I traded them to a LFS for a FLuval FX5.

They are currently a show piece at the LFS in a 150 gallon tank with Discus, Tetras, Corydoras.......they are even starting the courtship process.

So yes, I firmly believe P. Reticulata has been given the short end of the stick....they are beautiful and hardy.

Respectfully,
FireMedic.
 
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