Red Angelfish - Sick?

[Guppyy]

Hi

My two koi angel breeding pair have suddenly turned red - one is usually white and the other black, but it is obvious they now have a red tinge to them...and im not sure what it is.

I thought that it may be caused from the tetra colour bits that i am feeding them - it may have - however recently they have been acting "strange" - they are quiet, and seem to "fan" around the sponge filter (the action when they fan the eggs on the cone - where they sort of go almost vertical and move their fins fast). What are they doing/wats happening - are they sick?

I have tested water parameters:
amm - 0.1
n/ite - 0
n/ate - 20
ph - 6.8
temp - 27

The "redness" on one seems to be worse than the other. On the white one (male) there seems to be what looks like ammonia burn? on its body near the tail - almost like a blister. There seems to be a red line across it - not sure what it is.

Did a 30% w/c yesterday

Anyone know what is going on?
Please help, I dont want to lose this breeding pair!

Thanks

 

[Guppyy]

 

[Guppyy]

 

[Guppyy]

As you can hopefully see, there is a patch near the tail on the body that looks quite concerning - within this there is a noticable red horizontal line in the middle. In the second pic you can also see that its fins/flappers are "hanging" quite low - usually its not like this. There is also some red around the fins connecting to the body.

Anyone know whats wrong? The other one is not as bad, however I want to fix the problem asap

Thanks

 

[Cohazard]

it looks like bad water quality and possibly bacterial infection.

Keep the water clean, and try adding some maracyn or maracyn 2 (petsmart, etc.. has it).

Good luck, hope they are okay.

 

[Guppyy]

UPDATE:
The guy's condition has gone even WORSE! There is now fungus growing on that patch indictaed above!!
Last night I did a dose of myaxin - is this good? What else would you recommend?
Please help!

 

[mconrad75]

I would say do daily water changes of 50% for a few days, maybe a little aquarium salt, and lay off the medications which might further hamper your bio filter. Scale back the water changes after a few days to every couple of days, and eventually you can get back to once per week. You could also try a salt water dip. Also, how certain are you about that PH? What kind of test are you using, and how old is it?

 

[Cohazard]

the bacterial meds I suggested (maracyn and maracyn2) do not affect the bio filter.

I have used them in cycled tanks before with no crash.

If the infection has now spread to a secondary fungal infection, you need the addition of medications to targer the initial bacterial infection as well as the clean water.

 

[mconrad75]

Lots of meds make that claim. Also a cycled tank is one thing, a tank that's already having trouble is quite another. Personally, I'm a bit of a meda-phobe when it comes to treating tanks. It's necessary and helpful in some cases, but I also think it's a bit overdone.

 

[hillbilly]

Hi

My two koi angel breeding pair have suddenly turned red - one is usually white and the other black, but it is obvious they now have a red tinge to them...and im not sure what it is.

I thought that it may be caused from the tetra colour bits that i am feeding them - it may have - however recently they have been acting "strange" - they are quiet, and seem to "fan" around the sponge filter (the action when they fan the eggs on the cone - where they sort of go almost vertical and move their fins fast). What are they doing/wats happening - are they sick?

I have tested water parameters:
amm - 0.1
n/ite - 0
n/ate - 20
ph - 6.8
temp - 27

The "redness" on one seems to be worse than the other. On the white one (male) there seems to be what looks like ammonia burn? on its body near the tail - almost like a blister. There seems to be a red line across it - not sure what it is.

Did a 30% w/c yesterday

Anyone know what is going on?
Please help, I dont want to lose this breeding pair!

Thanks

I'm a discus guy, so water quality issues really stand out and scream at me. Based on your tests, it should be obvious. You have ammonia in the tank, a water quality problem. You are experiencing an ammonia spike. I would suggest doing a 75% water change, and using SeaChem Prime at double doses until you lose your mini cycle. Do you use a cartridge filter? If so, and have changed the cartridge recently, that may be your problem. At any rate, you need to improve bio filtration in that tank. Fish can easily die from ammonia poisoning.


Added note:
Well, I just noticed the date of this thread. I guess these fish are dead by now if this problem was not corrected. Wish I had saw it earlier.