Red Dragon Vent pics

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Jack Dempsey
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Not the best pics I know but its the best I could do. Just wondering if anyone cares to take a shot at sexing these guys. I've included a vent pic and a profile pic of each. all opinions welcome.
 
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Srry forgot to add the pics here they are

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Especially hard to see vent on little guy
 
Leaning toward male on the darker one due to pointed shape of tube but I'm no expert
 
Their both males if these are the same two that were in the last thread you posted for kok potential both show signs of kok and neither have dorsal markings

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