On a side note I just found out a couple of days ago that red terrors are SA and not CA. I was actually pretty suprised to find out. To make matters worse there are quite a few sites out there that actually state that they are CA so that didn't help my confusion.
I picked them up at a LFS called "The Wet Spot" in portland oregon. They are wild caught. One is about 4 inches the other is about 3. I will take pics soon My camera is MIA...